Mar 25, 2019 21:34
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English term
United States
Variance; departure
English to French
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Avez-vous déjà eu a traduire les termes "variance" et "departure" faisant référence aux Federal Sentencing Guidelines? Je sais bien qu'il est impossible a parfaitement traduire ce qui relève d'un système et non pas du simple vocabulaire, mais, comme vous pouvez constatez dans l’exemple suivant, cette différence peut avoir une gros impact sur les résultats.
http://convicerpercy.com/third-circuit-emphasizes-distinctio...
In United States v. Fumo, 655 F.3d 288 (3d Cir. 2011), the Third Circuit vacated the defendants’ sentence in part because the district court failed to articulate clearly whether its sentencing procedure was a departure or a variance.
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http://convicerpercy.com/third-circuit-emphasizes-distinctio...
In United States v. Fumo, 655 F.3d 288 (3d Cir. 2011), the Third Circuit vacated the defendants’ sentence in part because the district court failed to articulate clearly whether its sentencing procedure was a departure or a variance.
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Proposed translations
(French)
| 4 | "variation'' ; ''déviation'' |
Anne Longuet
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| 3 | sentence aberrante/sentence hors norme |
Francois Boye
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References
| Departure vs Variance |
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Proposed translations
15 hrs
Francois Boye
United States
United States
Native in French
United States
An economic geek with social skills
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
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sentence aberrante/sentence hors norme
'aberrante vient du concept de donnée aberrante en statistique
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnée_aberrante
'hors norme' = non respectueux des normes ou directives (guidelines)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnée_aberrante
'hors norme' = non respectueux des normes ou directives (guidelines)
10 days
Anne Longuet
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in French
Specializes in field
Netherlands
ENG/POL → FR translator and copywriter
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, Polish to French
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31
"variation'' ; ''déviation''
Je traduirais en mettant des guillemets ''variation''; ''déviation'' et une note de bas de page pour expliquer la différence entre les 2 notions:
a “departure” diverges from the originally calculated sentencing range for reasons contained in the Guidelines themselves, whereas a “variance” diverges from the Guidelines range, including any departures, based on an exercise of the court’s discretion under § 3553(a).
a “departure” diverges from the originally calculated sentencing range for reasons contained in the Guidelines themselves, whereas a “variance” diverges from the Guidelines range, including any departures, based on an exercise of the court’s discretion under § 3553(a).
Reference comments
16 hrs
Reference:
Departure vs Variance
Departure and Variance Primer Prepared by the Office of General Counsel U.S. Sentencing Commission
GENERAL PRINCIPLES (p.1)
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A court may impose a sentence outside the properly calculated guideline range through either a “departure” or a “variance.”
A departure is either (i) the imposition of a sentence outside the guideline range or a sentence that is otherwise different from the guideline sentence or, for purposes of §4A1.3 (Departures Based on Inadequacy of Criminal History Category), (ii) assignment of a criminal history category other than the otherwise applicable criminal history category, in order to effect a sentence outside the applicable guideline range.
A variance is a sentence imposed outside the applicable guideline range based upon the statutory sentencing factors found at 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
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A “departure” is typically a change from the final sentencing range computed by examining the provisions of the Guidelines themselves. It is frequently triggered by a prosecution request to reward cooperation . . . or by other factors that take the case “outside the heartland” contemplated by the Sentencing Commission when it drafted the Guidelines for a typical offense. A “variance,” by contrast, occurs when a judge imposes a sentence above or below the otherwise properly calculated final sentencing range based on application of the other statutory factors in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
PROCEDURE OF THE SENTENCING COURT (p.2)
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A sentencing court must follow the three-step process set forth by Gall v. United States. First, the court must properly determine the guideline range. Second, the court must determine whether to apply any of the guidelines’ departure policy statements to adjust the guideline range. Third, the court must consider all the factors set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) as a whole, including whether a variance—a sentence outside the advisory guideline system—is warranted.
https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/training/primer...
Et pour bonne mesure, le 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a), qui semble crucial ici, se trouve là : https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3553
GENERAL PRINCIPLES (p.1)
...
A court may impose a sentence outside the properly calculated guideline range through either a “departure” or a “variance.”
A departure is either (i) the imposition of a sentence outside the guideline range or a sentence that is otherwise different from the guideline sentence or, for purposes of §4A1.3 (Departures Based on Inadequacy of Criminal History Category), (ii) assignment of a criminal history category other than the otherwise applicable criminal history category, in order to effect a sentence outside the applicable guideline range.
A variance is a sentence imposed outside the applicable guideline range based upon the statutory sentencing factors found at 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
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A “departure” is typically a change from the final sentencing range computed by examining the provisions of the Guidelines themselves. It is frequently triggered by a prosecution request to reward cooperation . . . or by other factors that take the case “outside the heartland” contemplated by the Sentencing Commission when it drafted the Guidelines for a typical offense. A “variance,” by contrast, occurs when a judge imposes a sentence above or below the otherwise properly calculated final sentencing range based on application of the other statutory factors in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a).
PROCEDURE OF THE SENTENCING COURT (p.2)
...
A sentencing court must follow the three-step process set forth by Gall v. United States. First, the court must properly determine the guideline range. Second, the court must determine whether to apply any of the guidelines’ departure policy statements to adjust the guideline range. Third, the court must consider all the factors set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) as a whole, including whether a variance—a sentence outside the advisory guideline system—is warranted.
https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/training/primer...
Et pour bonne mesure, le 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a), qui semble crucial ici, se trouve là : https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3553
Discussion
While it is possible that in the jargon of US courts these terms have a specific meaning, the above is what they would normally mean.
departure: dérogation
variance: dérogation (!), modification, exception