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Mar 6, 2020 18:46
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German term

das Gebot der Rücksichtnahme und Treuepflichten

German to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) Coronavirus instructions for employers
A list of instructions for employers and workers concerning coronavirus.

The full sentence reads:

Doch auch ohne (kollektiv-)vertragliche Grundlage kann der Arbeitgeber das mobile Arbeiten im Einzelfall mit Blick auf das Gebot der Rücksichtnahme und Treuepflichten anordnen,

but it's the last bit that I want to clarify.
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Discussion

Ramey Rieger (X) Mar 10, 2020:
Agree with Phil that the German phrasing is overly bureaucratic. The writer is apparently trying to keep his/her distance from the statement, which isn't surprising given the context.

In individual cases, the employer may draw on the tacit respect and fidelity/loyalty agreement, requesting employees to work out of office/at home.
Chris Pr Mar 9, 2020:
Perhaps.... ..."due care and good faith obligations", might provide a suitable compromise...?
ebobilov Mar 7, 2020:
Rücksichtsnahmepflicht Following explanation could be helpful:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verpflichtetsein
(Schutzpflichten)
Chris Pr Mar 7, 2020:
The Google "disagree" assertion aside -> "...fiduciary is a commercial term..."
Adrian MM. Mar 7, 2020:
A list of instructions for *employers & workers* The term of fiduciary is in the ENG-speaking press the whole time with ref. to employers, company directors and accountants, so 'ignorance is no excuse' for professionally negligent omissions https://www.aicpa.org/interestareas/personalfinancialplannin...
Chris Pr Mar 7, 2020:
Good point... ..but since "Treupflicht" itself has a wider implication than "loyalty" alone, then perhaps a broadening out to something approaching "good faith" may be a viable compromise...?
philgoddard Mar 7, 2020:
Remember this is a notice to employees, not a piece of legal reasoning. Most people won't have the faintest idea what terms like "fiduciary" mean. You should use plain English.
Chris Pr Mar 7, 2020:
Helen We note you're from the UK, but is your target language in this case the UK or US variant...?

And just for the meantime:
"What Is a Fiduciary Duty of Loyalty?"
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/fiduciary-dut...

Björn Vrooman Mar 7, 2020:
@Helen Here's an explanation in German:
http://arbeitsrecht123.de/Rechtsanwalt-Falkensee-Potsdam-Tel...

This seems to be about the duty of fidelity and fiduciary duties:
https://www.twmsolicitors.com/news-and-blogs/contracts-of-em...
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=8e6a3aa1-0821...

Not saying that this is what you should put in your sentence, but maybe it helps to clarify things.

Best wishes

PS
Although, for some reason, "duty of care" was the first thing I was thinking about, probably because of the reference to Covid-19, e.g.: "Under this general duty of care, employers must ensure that workplace conditions meet or exceed the applicable safety and health regulations in the state where they are located."
https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/corona...

Proposed translations

7 hrs

where reasonable/within reason

I think any attempt to stay close to the German would sound odd.

This is one of those instances where you're justified in throwing the source text out of the window, and writing something you'd expect to see in a similar English text.

So I suggest:

"Even where this is not laid down in the employees' contracts, or in a collective agreement, the employer may, where reasonable, require them to work from home/remotely."
Note from asker:
Very helpful; thank you.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Michael Martin, MA : I often favor a holistic solution but you're taking this too far. I think the reader should be aware that this author is invoking legal concepts, however pompous they may sound in the context./But is it one we're looking for?
9 hrs
"Where reasonable" is a legal concept.
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the duty of care and fiduciary obligations

Thnaks to Björn V.'s discussion entry. I have changed fiduciary duties to obligations to avoid the 'duty of care' double-up.

This follows the German and, in the words of the late translator and linguist, Professor Peter Newmark, accounts for 'every word in the sozrce text' and without sounding odd.
Note from asker:
I was wondering about the 'fiduciary duties'; this is helpful; thank you!
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daniel Arnold (X) : fiduciary isnt what Treue means here (fiduciary is a property law term), you can google it "Treuepflicht Arbeitgeber", it means solidarity & loyalty. > solidarity as a term is not reserved for the Polish historical event my friend ;-)
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Solidarity was the name of a Polish Trade Union movement, besides which it is the employers as fiduciaries, not the employees beim mobilen Arbeiten, who need to have regard to das Gebot der Rücksichtnahme und Treuepflichten.
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duty to show consideration and loyalty

But even without a collective agreement, there are situations when an employer may direct employees to work from home in light of their duty to show consideration and loyalty.

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https://www.abacademies.org/articles/the-duty-of-loyalty-in-...
Note from asker:
This is great; thank you.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : This is the literal meaning, but I think it needs paraphrasing. And isn't it both sides' duty to show consideration?
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That's not completely outlandish but, as author, I would have phrased the German differently to emphasize that the obligation extends to both sides.
agree Daniel Arnold (X) : agree, especially with loyalty for Treue
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due care and fiduciary commitments

..."duty of/to..." seems to be the awkward part to adequately formulate..
Hence the more compact and fluid rendering... to group both concepts under the 'commitments' umbrella, so to speak...

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Note added at 2 days 12 hrs (2020-03-09 07:10:01 GMT)
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Added via discussion:

due care and good faith obligations
Note from asker:
I really appreciate your suggestion.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daniel Arnold (X) : fiduciary is a commercial term, if you google "Treuepflicht Arbeitgeber" you will see that this means solidarity & loyalty.
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tacit respect and fidelity/loyalty agreement

Just thought I'd put in my two cents' worth. Interesting question.

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Note added at 3 days 23 hrs (2020-03-10 18:20:53 GMT)
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In individual cases, the employer may draw on the tacit respect and fidelity/loyalty agreement, requesting employees to work out of office/at home.
Note from asker:
Many thanks!
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