May 9, 2020 13:44
4 yrs ago
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French term
France
Native in: English
CSE d’établissement
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Employees' Representative Institution
Context:
"la cour d’appel de Paris a, quant à elle, clairement ordonné à la société de consulter le CSE central et les CSE d’établissement sur l’évaluation des risques professionnels liés au Covid-19 et la mise en œuvre des mesures de prévention."
"la cour d’appel de Paris a, quant à elle, clairement ordonné à la société de consulter le CSE central et les CSE d’établissement sur l’évaluation des risques professionnels liés au Covid-19 et la mise en œuvre des mesures de prévention."
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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1 day 22 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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1355
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CSE d’établissement [Internal Committee for Employee Representation]
This body deals with employer-employee matters. Although "Social & Economic Committee" is the so-called official translation (a) this completely fails to convey any connection with employment and (b) potentially causes confusion with a body with the same name at UN level
"Internal" - within the company or organisation concerned
Please seem my comments on this asker's other (allied) question
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Note added at 1 day 22 hrs (2020-05-11 12:37:53 GMT)
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The purpose of the CSE is to consolidate in a single body the attributions of three different employee representatives bodies in French companies which are (i) the staff representatives (délégués du personnel), who are elected in companies employing at least 11 employees on an habitual basis, (ii) the works council (comité d’entreprise), and (iii) the health and safety committee (comité d’hygiène, de sécurité et des conditions de travail), both elected in companies employing at least 50 employees on an habitual basis.
Source:
https://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2018/01/french-employ...
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"Internal" - within the company or organisation concerned
Please seem my comments on this asker's other (allied) question
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Note added at 1 day 22 hrs (2020-05-11 12:37:53 GMT)
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The purpose of the CSE is to consolidate in a single body the attributions of three different employee representatives bodies in French companies which are (i) the staff representatives (délégués du personnel), who are elected in companies employing at least 11 employees on an habitual basis, (ii) the works council (comité d’entreprise), and (iii) the health and safety committee (comité d’hygiène, de sécurité et des conditions de travail), both elected in companies employing at least 50 employees on an habitual basis.
Source:
https://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2018/01/french-employ...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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Timothy Rake
United States
United States
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Specializes in field
United States
My business is translating your business
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English to French
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52
The institution's Economic and Social Council (ESC)
see the link below
Peer comment(s):
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Yvonne Gallagher
: not really what it is. Best to leave in French and explain
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Michael Grabczan-Grabowski
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Specializes in field
Canada
Affordable. High Quality. Native English
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, South African, US, Australian, Canadian, New Zealand)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, Polish to English
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4
establishment-level economic and social committee // establishment-level CSE // establishment CSE
An "establishment" can encompass a wide range of entities.
I like how this article handles the translation: https://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2018/01/french-employ...
"Due to the significant amount of amendments to French employment regulation provided by the Reform, we have chosen to focus this article on the main key features of the new employee representative body: the social and economic committee (Comité social et économique – “CSE”)."
I would consider doing the same as this article, i.e. writing it out in English first, giving the French version in parentheses, and referring to it as the "CSE" after that, as it would make it easier to refer to it as the "establishment CSE" or "establishment-level CSE."
This article also handles the terms very well: https://www.dlapiper.com/en/france/insights/publications/201...
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I meant to write my suggestion as "establishment-level social and economic committee," to stay consistent with the French order of the words and the usage of the term on publications relating to French law.
I like how this article handles the translation: https://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2018/01/french-employ...
"Due to the significant amount of amendments to French employment regulation provided by the Reform, we have chosen to focus this article on the main key features of the new employee representative body: the social and economic committee (Comité social et économique – “CSE”)."
I would consider doing the same as this article, i.e. writing it out in English first, giving the French version in parentheses, and referring to it as the "CSE" after that, as it would make it easier to refer to it as the "establishment CSE" or "establishment-level CSE."
This article also handles the terms very well: https://www.dlapiper.com/en/france/insights/publications/201...
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I meant to write my suggestion as "establishment-level social and economic committee," to stay consistent with the French order of the words and the usage of the term on publications relating to French law.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Or you could paraphrase it as something like "site employee representation committee".
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I'm all for paraphrasing, especially if it gives the essence of the meaning or facilitates understanding better. Thanks!
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Yolanda Broad
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Thank you, Yolanda.
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Saro Nova
: https://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/1785/what-is-e...
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Thank you!
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Yvonne Gallagher
: not really what it is. Best to leave in French and explain
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Yes, I like that approach too.
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(Local) Social and Economic Committee
Please see my other answer for the Central Social and Economic Committee.
Basically, this is just the new personnel representatives' committee in companies etc. (see reference on Proz where this was resolved last time)
it's important to keep the French word order to avoid confusion with the UN's CSE
Basically, this is just the new personnel representatives' committee in companies etc. (see reference on Proz where this was resolved last time)
it's important to keep the French word order to avoid confusion with the UN's CSE
Peer comment(s):
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Yvonne Gallagher
: no confusion if you add "French" but anyway, best to keep French and give explanation
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Michael Grabczan-Grabowski
: A good option, I think. I would prefer "establishment-level social and economic committee" or use AllegroTrans' suggestion.
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