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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Sabre d\'extrémité

English translation:

end blade

Added to glossary by Kimberly De Haan
Dec 27, 2021 18:28
2 yrs ago
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French term

Sabre d'extrémité

French to English Tech/Engineering Manufacturing conveyor belt specifications
Hello all,
I'm afraid I don't have much context. I'm translating tech sheets for conveyor belts. The transmission parts include: axe de commande, sabre d'extrémité, rouleaux d'embarrage and rouleaux de renvoi.
I'm afraid that's all I've got.
Any conveyor belt experts out there?
Proposed translations (English)
2 +2 end blade
3 +1 nose bar
3 end scraper

Discussion

Johannes Gleim Dec 31, 2021:
@ CadastreToulous Yes, this construction is well known, it's only the question whether Kimberley's context refer to this construction or any other item with sharp blades at the end of the belt, called "sabre d'extrémité". Unfortunately Kimberley did not answer our questions and did not inform us about his "solution" (perhaps the translation has already been delivered).

If I encounter incomprehensible expressions in source texts that I cannot clearly determine from my own expertise, from reference books or by internet search, I always ask the customer first and request illustrations and/or explanations. In most cases, this is sufficient to find the correct translation.
Bourth Dec 30, 2021:
@ Johannes Various sources say it is given this name because it resembles a sabre. As a sabreur myself (but mostly an épéeiste, and formerly a fleurettiste), I can tell you that is nonsense. However, it is thinner than the end of a standard conveyor belt unit, because the roller is smaller, and thus the horizontal distance between two abutting belt top surfaces is smaller, making it good for small products (the size of biscuits or chocolates for ex.), i.e. the distance between the belts is end-roller* radius 1 + end-roller* radius 2 + the small gap between the two belts, so the smaller the radii, the smaller the hollow "V" between the horizontal surfaces of the belts.
* Of course the roller can be replaced by a rounded fixed end, but with greater friction and thus belt wear.
Althea Draper Dec 28, 2021:
@Johannes You get a 'sabre fixe' and a 'sabre tournant'. The rotating ones have reduced friction and therefore cause less wear to the belts. Examples of a 'sabre fixe' and 'sabre tournant' are shown in the links below, and you can see where they are located in relation to the belt.

https://www.esbelt.com/fr/project/passage-sur-sabre-fixe/
https://foodpackautomation.fr/news/39981-des-rouleaux-pour-s...
Johannes Gleim Dec 28, 2021:
@ Kimberley Can you please inform us about the kind of products conveyed by the conveyor? Is it from the type shown in Althea's references?
I really wonder about your link between the conveyor belt and the 'sabre' as the part called 'sabre' is a roller (probably outside the belt) acc. Althea's references.
Do you have any illustration or description?
What function has the sabre in your context?
Althea Draper Dec 27, 2021:
Nose bar A type of non-rotating end roll, usually UHMW, used for minimum diameter transfer where shaft deflection would be a problem.
https://wirebelt.co.uk/help-centre/glossary-of-terms/
Althea Draper Dec 27, 2021:
"Le convoyeur à bande sabre
Le convoyeur à bande avec un embout « sabre » est souvent utilisé pour réaliser des jonctions entre deux machines. Les convoyeurs à embout standard ne conviennent pas pour réaliser des jonctions efficaces dans le transport de petites pièces. La largeur de la poulie crée un espace vide au niveau de la jonction. Ces convoyeurs disposent d’un embout en forme de sabre du au diamètre réduit des rouleaux d’extrémité. Ils permettent de venir se coller au plus près d’un autre équipement en réduisant l’espace de jonction à quelques millimètres seulement. Lorsque les rouleaux d’extrémité roulent avec la bande on parle de sabre tournants. Dans le cas contraire on parle de sabre fixe. Les sabres tournants évitent le frottement permanent de la bande. Ils permettent d’économiser de la puissance et d’augmenter la durée de vie de la bande."
https://fr.linkedin.com/pulse/les-convoyeurs-industriels-joc...
S06-401 ...Compatible avec sabre d’extrémité de Ø7
https://www.hellomoov-faber.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Ta...
S.06-401 ...Runs on nose bars down to 7 mm
http://www.scanbelt.com/gb/products/s-06.aspx

Proposed translations

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29 mins
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end blade

I'm NOT a specialist at all, but here's a reference:

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/engineering-ind...

You could ask Thomas what he concluded.



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Note added at 32 mins (2021-12-27 19:01:02 GMT)
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I have asked Thomas myself.
Peer comment(s):
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
17 mins
Thanks Anastasia!
agree philgoddard
2 hrs
Thanks a lot Phil!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone who contributed to the discussion on this term. I had very little context to go by, it was for a rush job, and I kind of forgot about it afterward. Based on some limited references the client was able to provide, I deduced that boxed products were moved along the conveyors."
+1
22 mins

nose bar

'Medium' confidence because in the matter I know only what the Internet tells me.

Comme elle est capable de fonctionner sur un SABRE de 19 mm, même les produits les plus délicats sont transférés en toute sécurité.
Since it is capable of running on a three-quarter inch NOSEBAR, even the most delicate product transfers safely.

A nosebar is a SMALL DIAMETER PULLEY installed under the belt at the end of a conveyor. The smaller diameter reduces the gap at the end of the conveyor that is typical of larger diameter pulleys and allows small parts to transfer from the conveyor with more stability.

Unité de réduction et PALIER SABRE Reduction unit and NOSE BAR

Le DIAMÈTRE RÉDUIT DES ROULEAUX d’extrémité du convoyeur (en forme de lame de SABRE) facilite le passage du produit lors de son transfert.



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A nose bar is aka a knife edge.

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Note added at 1 hr (2021-12-27 19:54:34 GMT)
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"When transferring the product between operations, the belts' ability to flex over a ROLLING NOSE BAR or a KNIFE EDGE TRANSFER is a critical factor in the selection of the proper belt for the application."
http://www.sparksbelting.com/blog/how-to-select-the-right-fo...

"The fabric belt conveyor is friction-driven and usually has a NARROW NOSE BAR (KNIFE EDGE). This makes it possible to transport small and delicate products without squashing them."
https://www.marvu.nl/en/conveyor-belts/fabric-conveyor-belts...

You'll also find 'TRANSFER NOSE' (for transferring items to the next conveyor belt).

"After cutting, due to the need to transfer small thin product along the flow, the problem is increased by the use of KNIFE EDGE STATIC NOSE BARS."
Peer comment(s):
agree Althea Draper
4 hrs
Thanks, from one person who knows how to use the Internet to another.
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3 hrs

end scraper

Conformément à l'invention, le convoyeur en forme s de tapis sans fin s'enroule sur un sabre, au niveau de son nez et sur un tambour motorisé, à l'arrière.
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2. Récolteuse selon la revendication 1, caractérisée en ce qu'elle comporte un sabre (23) constitué d'un rond ou demi-rond d'enroulement (25) dont le diamètre est de l'ordre de 8 à 10 mm, associé à un plat de rigidification (26) s'étendant vers l'arrière
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2. A harvester according to daim 1, characterised in that it comprises a sabre (23) composed of a winding circle or semi-circle (25) whose diameter ranges from 8 to 10 mm, associated with a stiffening flat is (26) extending backwards.
https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document/EP94400...

Un tapis d’un pas extrémement réduit, conçu pour la boulangerie, les fruits de mer, la congélation et la laiterie.
Compatible avec sabre d’extrémité de Ø7. Tapis avec axes intégrés pour un nettoyage plus facile
https://docplayer.fr/116746413-Tapis-modulaires-scanbelt.htm...

The 'sabre' is a scraper, probably an end scraper.

racleur / scraper | ~ (convoyeur) / plough o. scraper | ~ de boue / sludge scraper
(Comprehensive Dictionary of Engineering and Technology)

Conveyor end scraper
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/3849e8f6ebbeda0e7b0e5...

The preferred forms of the two interior scrapers near the receiving end of the conveyor utilized hard steel, blunt edge scraper blades as described for the exterior discharge end scraper but are otherwise of different design and perform different functions relative to the discharge end scraper.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3414116

The most typical scraper was an end scraper, which had a convex or nearly straight working edge on its narrow end.
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Scraper

• 6th Roller – Plain roller 200 (Stainless)
• End scraper plain roller / spiral roller 200
https://aphgroup.com/equipment/brands/dewulf-brand/receiving...

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Note added at 2 days 22 hrs (2021-12-30 17:23:27 GMT)
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If it is not a matter of a scraper or stripper, a tail end roller or fixed rod would also be an option.
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