Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
red retahíla
English translation:
old saw/old saying/old story
Added to glossary by
Wendy Gosselin
Apr 4, 2022 19:29
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Spanish term
red retahíla
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
An interview with a Venezuelan artist. She is talking about her childhood:
O sea, yo era como la oveja negra de mi familia porque era como la loca, como la que: “Ay, ¿qué vas a hacer tú con el arte? Los artistas no pueden vivir”. Tú sabes, esa red retahíla que, hasta el día de hoy, nos aplican a los seres en la familia que somos un poco distintos a los demás.
O sea, yo era como la oveja negra de mi familia porque era como la loca, como la que: “Ay, ¿qué vas a hacer tú con el arte? Los artistas no pueden vivir”. Tú sabes, esa red retahíla que, hasta el día de hoy, nos aplican a los seres en la familia que somos un poco distintos a los demás.
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3 +2 | old saw/old saying/old story | Muriel Vasconcellos |
3 | tag /tagline/label | neilmac |
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old saw/old saying/old story
In this context, I see it more as a story than a label. I prefer 'old saw' because it parallels the register of the original. It also emphasizes that the adage/warning (artists don't make enough money to live on) is old and often repeated. Some colleagues may not have heard of it, but the same seems to be true of the Spanish source phrase.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Saw_(saying)
What is an old saw?
A saw is an old saying or commonly repeated phrase or idea; a conventional wisdom. While "old saw" is a common phrase for "saw", some consider it a tautology.
Examples:
Unicorns: People Not Companies - Horton International
https://www.hortoninternational.com › news › unicorns...
Feb 1, 2022 — **That old saw – hire for attitude, train for skills – often hits the right spot**
Don't Say “Change Is Hard” When You're Asking People to ...
https://hbr.org › tip › 2018/01 › dont-say-change-is-har...
Jan 3, 2018 — But **that old saw can become a self-fulfilling prophecy**. Momentary setbacks or delays can be viewed as the dead canary in the coal mine, ...
Working Less Is a Matter of Life and Death - The New York Times...
https://www.nytimes.com › opinion › work-hours-us-health
May 29, 2021 — ... time on the job, **going all the way back to that old saw first recorded in the 17th century, “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.**
Universities shouldn't be exempt from DC property taxes
https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2016/08/19
Aug 19, 2016 — **THAT OLD saw about death and taxes does not apply to not-for-profit institutions** such as colleges and universities, which may not be ...
From: https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Saw_(saying)
What is an old saw?
A saw is an old saying or commonly repeated phrase or idea; a conventional wisdom. While "old saw" is a common phrase for "saw", some consider it a tautology.
Examples:
Unicorns: People Not Companies - Horton International
https://www.hortoninternational.com › news › unicorns...
Feb 1, 2022 — **That old saw – hire for attitude, train for skills – often hits the right spot**
Don't Say “Change Is Hard” When You're Asking People to ...
https://hbr.org › tip › 2018/01 › dont-say-change-is-har...
Jan 3, 2018 — But **that old saw can become a self-fulfilling prophecy**. Momentary setbacks or delays can be viewed as the dead canary in the coal mine, ...
Working Less Is a Matter of Life and Death - The New York Times...
https://www.nytimes.com › opinion › work-hours-us-health
May 29, 2021 — ... time on the job, **going all the way back to that old saw first recorded in the 17th century, “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.**
Universities shouldn't be exempt from DC property taxes
https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2016/08/19
Aug 19, 2016 — **THAT OLD saw about death and taxes does not apply to not-for-profit institutions** such as colleges and universities, which may not be ...
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
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Thank you, Jennifer!
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neilmac
: I like "adage", and keep my saws for cutting up firewood :-)
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Thank you, Neil! I'm not surprised by your preference. I expected my answer to fall like a lead balloon. I picked it because it's rare and the Spanish term is rare as well.
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tag /tagline/label
Or maybe "sobriquet"... ( a nickname)...
None of these are direct dictionary translations, but I think they could work in the context, with a bit of tweaking.
None of these are direct dictionary translations, but I think they could work in the context, with a bit of tweaking.
Discussion
"¿Qué significa retahíla en Venezuela? Composición poética en que la última palabra de cada verso se repite al comienzo de la siguiente."
https://www.definiciones-de.com/Definicion/Venezuela/retahil...
"Las retahílas son juegos de palabras que nombran sucesos generalmente en forma de rima, son típicamente infantiles y son usadas tanto como un juego, así como un recurso lingüístico y de fluidez verbal, la imaginación y ejercicios de memoria, para niños pequeños"
https://www.ejemplode.com/12-clases_de_espanol/3705-ejemplo_...
"letanía SF
1. (Rel) → litany
2. (= retahíla) → long list, litany"
https://es.thefreedictionary.com/letanías