Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

Malsimmes

English translation:

Malsimmes / Malle Symen / 'Crazy Simon'

Added to glossary by Adam Smith
Jun 18, 2004 21:20
19 yrs ago
Dutch term

Malsimmes

Non-PRO Dutch to English Art/Literary Music
Name of a piece of music by the composer Jacob Van Eyck - would like to know what it means please. Also titled 'Malle Symen' if that is of any help.

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com (asker) Jun 23, 2004:
Thank you all for your very helpful answers to my query over the meaning of the title 'Malle Symen'. Yes, indeed, I agree that the title should not be translated. However, in order to play the piece in the manner intended by van Eyck it is verging on the imperative to know quite what the title means. I note the slight differences of opinion with regards to the nuances of the 'crazy' element. There is a tinge of pathos in the music, and the 'foolish character from the theater' does seem to emerge through that. Anyhow, my grateful thanks to everyone for your help. It has been invaluable!

Proposed translations

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Malsimmes / Malle Symen / 'Crazy Simon'

Since the piece is called "Malsimmes / Malle Symen" I wouldn't translate, but include 'Crazy Simon' as explanation, e.g.

"Malle Symen Quartet
Director : none
Year ensemble formed : 1994
Description : "Malle Symen" is a well-known tune from the 17th century. Quite a few composers (e.g. Sweelinck) used this tune as a base for their compositions. It is possible, that "Malle Symen" was also used as a term for a foolish character from the theater. "Malle" means 'crazy' while "Symen" is a version of the name 'Simon'. "

ref. http://gfhandel.org/bleissa/pipe/pipem.htm

"17. Malle Symen (Crazy Simon) "

ref. http://www.digitalphono.com/v/VerbruggenMarion/FlutesGardenO...
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : good refs
10 mins
Cheers! :-)
agree Nanny Wintjens
45 mins
Thank you!
agree Maria van der Heijde-Zomerdijk (X)
50 mins
Thank you!
agree Mirjam Bonne-Nollen
11 hrs
Thanks!
disagree shineda : 'crazy' seems too harsh for 'malle'. it's more like 'funny' or may be 'foolish'
15 hrs
Perhaps you should read the references first before commenting - that is the 'correct' name for this piece of music!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
26 mins

Funny/ weird Simon

HTH,
Jacqueline
Peer comment(s):

agree shineda : 'funny' of misschien 'foolish'
15 hrs
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