Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

artiste plasticienne

English translation:

visual artist

Added to glossary by Richard George Elliott
Nov 3, 2004 13:59
19 yrs ago
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French term

artiste plasticienne

Non-PRO French to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
used to describe contemporary artists

Proposed translations

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visual artist

i.e. painter, sculptor etc.

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Essentially, \'plastic artist\' and \'visual artist\' mean the same thing but \'visual artist\' is far more widely used in English.
Peer comment(s):

agree David Vaughn : This is the field I specialize in. Yes, undoubtedly this is the closest in tone. Both refer to "real artists", those who've studied in serious professional art schools, and not Sunday painters. The only justifiable alternative I see is plain "artist".
41 mins
Thanks, I too specialise in this field!
disagree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : C'mon...I read art books and art criticism all the time...plastic is a Latinate import which only works in very restricted settings...
3 hrs
Precisely, that is why I am not advocating it. Read my answer again.
agree Nathalie Andrews (X)
3 hrs
Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "this is the one I have used."
6 mins

plastic artist

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Until recently the term plastic artist was limited to continental Europe - in Britain, artists were still referred to by their discipline - fine artist, sculptor, set designer, etc. Now the term is universally accepted to describe artists in general.
Peer comment(s):

agree Diana Donzelli-Gaudet
11 mins
agree Nicky Over : I have used ‘plastic artist’ for this in several passages, although EuroDicatom does give ‘employment in the visual arts’ for ‘l'emploi des artistes plasticiens’.
43 mins
disagree David Vaughn : I can't agree. You'll notice that visual artist gets 60 times as many googles, and that the "plastic artist" googles are almost entirely translated pages. BTW, what's a "fine artist"? Note that "visual artist" is not literal, but refers to a tradition.
45 mins
disagree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : no no no this is LATINATE and just isn't on...really
3 hrs
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30 mins

exponent of the plastic arts

Doing a Google search of "plastic artist UK" indicated that the term is not used in UK. Any hits for "plastic artist" are referring to artists from other countries, so that is probably a literal translation from another language. For about ten years now, there have been more people in the world who speak English as a second language than as a first one. That means more literal translations into English being accepted.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : only with explanation....
2 hrs
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54 mins

visual artist

It sounds redundant to me, but this is the term used - see for instance the website of one such artist, Dimitri Xenakis, whose English website uses this term while the French version "artiste placticien".
It seems to be both a comprehensive term that can include painters, sculptors and others working in a variety of media, but in more restricted sense sometimes designates those who work with physical objects other than painting - eg ceramic, glass, etc.
Peer comment(s):

neutral David Vaughn : Richard has already given this answer, but you're right, a google search with "visual artist" and "plasticienne" gives several bilingual sites where the terms are synonyms. Note that "plasticienne" alone is enough in the art world, "artiste" is redundant.
24 mins
Thanks!
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painter and sculptor

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/welart

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or simply \'artist\'

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perso.wanadoo.fr/cm.mason/

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Note added at 2 hrs 31 mins (2004-11-03 16:30:43 GMT)
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After googling on people like Damien Hirst or Tracey Emin, the word artist crops up over and over. I don\'t think we really use another term in the UK anyway

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After googling on people like Damien Hirst or Tracey Emin, the word artist crops up over and over. I don\'t think we really use another term in the UK anyway
Peer comment(s):

agree RHELLER : sculptor (not painter)
2 hrs
thanks Rita ... actually thinking about it, I think artist is more correct .. see new comments
agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : Yes a sculptor and painter do works of fine arts [arts plastiques]!
3 hrs
thanks Jane
neutral David Vaughn : Some plasticiennes are painters, some are sculptors, some are both, but some are also involved in other domains. "Artist", as I've written elsewhere, is basically accurate.
7 hrs
Yes, I agree Vaughn. That's why I plumped for 'artist' in the end.
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3 hrs

artist

fine arts= les arts plastiques but we don't say FINE ARTIST usually in English.,..just ARTIST

- in English....no PLASTIC AND NO VISUAL....
- the visual arts are not fine arts...visual arts is graphic art and photograph which is PART OF FINE ARTS......visual arts are SUBSUMED under FINE ARTS...sometimes
- HOWEVER...a sculptor can very easily USE PLASTIC..but that does not make her a plastic artist!!



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CAREFUL WITH FINE ARTIST in English..it means the person is a GOOD ARTIST........

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Note added at 3 hrs 14 mins (2004-11-03 17:13:37 GMT)
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FINE ARTS= ARTS PLASTIQUES
painter
sculptor
graphic artist as in illustrator and cartoonist,
engraver
print maker
photographer [often included]
mixed media artist [use of objects and paint and other things]
to name a few...

a potter, for example, is not doing FINE ART....

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Note added at 3 hrs 18 mins (2004-11-03 17:17:34 GMT)
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WHAT IS YOUR CONTEXT? The woman could be an ARTIST AND SCULPTOR or otherwise in English, we would SPECIFY...what she DOES IN FACT
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