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Apr 17, 2015 03:04
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Dutch term

rundermuis

Dutch to English Other Cooking / Culinary
I can't seem to find an unequivocal answer: which cut of beef is this?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 Top Side
References
silverside
Another ref found just by looking on the www (!!!). In Dutch though...
Change log

Apr 17, 2015 12:45: writeaway changed "Field" from "Social Sciences" to "Other"

Discussion

Wiard Sterk Apr 17, 2015:
Well, there is and Elephant Mouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUyNQAMf6hM
Kirsten Bodart Apr 17, 2015:
Looking at pictures of cuts on cows in NL and EN I'd think it's either top side or part of either the thick rib or chuck (schoudermuis). I'd say the first option on Linguee is mistranslated and the second only has 'beef' which you would use in the remainder of the recipe once you defined the cut of meat in the ingredients list.
There are two cuts called 'muis' in Dutch. One is the Top side (back of the hind leg on a cow) and the other 'schoudermuis' is the top of the shoulder. It's often used for smoking, carpaccio and roast beef. Though 'muis' on its own is definitely the hind leg.
Michael Beijer Apr 17, 2015:
"bovine mouse"? :-)
Edith Kelly Apr 17, 2015:
roastbeef would spring to mind e.g.
http://www.meerdanvlees.nl/index.php?target=categories&categ...

Proposed translations

+2
6 hrs
Selected

Top Side

Compare the two images and I guess it is either Silver Side or Top Side. My vote is for the latter, but it could be either.
Reference:

http://limousin-oost.nl/rundvlees-van-superieure-kwaliteit/

http://shopintideswell.co.uk/shop/beef/silverside-beef/

Peer comment(s):
neutral Edith Kelly : if at all it is topside. but you would never use topside in a recipe. Look also at Michael's link.
11 mins
Jamie Oliver does: http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/beef-recipes/perfect-roas...
agree Michael Beijer : agree with "silverside"
28 mins
Thanks.
agree Kirsten Bodart : Silverside, indeed.
4 hrs
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Reference comments

7 hrs
Reference:

silverside

http://www.linguee.com/english-dutch/search?source=auto&quer...

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Van Dale NL-EN:

muis:

#4. spiervlees = round piece of silverside

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"Dungesneden kalfsmuis met tonijn creme (Vitello Tonato) =
Vitello Tonnato - Thinly sliced silverside veal with tuna dressing

Mabre van ossenstaart en gerookte rundermuis =
Marbre of oxtail and smoked silverside beef

Yakitori van rundermuis =
'Yakitori' of silverside beef
"
(http://doubletree3.hilton.com/resources/media/dt/AMSCSDI/en_... )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:11:41 GMT)
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"Muis

EBLEX Code: Silver-side B010
MLC Code: 11241

De maximum vetlaag is 15 mm.

[…]

Voormuis

EBLEX Code: Chuck B008
MLC Code: 12290
Overtollig vet is verwijderd."

(http://www.eblex-bpex-export.org.uk/sites/default/files/u412... )

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-17 10:12:44 GMT)
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"Wat Is Beef Silverside?

[…]

Recepten met rundvlees platte bil vereisen gewoonlijk het roosteren van de hele stuk vlees in de oven en dan snijden het te dienen. Het stuk vlees is opgenomen in recepten, zoals gestoofd rundermuis en pot-geroosterd rundvlees met rode wijn en rode ui marmelade." (http://www.deadreign.com/wat-is-beef-silverside/ )

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Carpaccio van gepekelde en gerookte rundermuis met een klassieke ravigotesaus
=
Carpaccio of pickled, smoked silverside of beef in a classic ravigote sauce

(http://indico.cern.ch/event/71158/material/0/1.pdf )

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Oxforddictionaries.com:

"silverside":

[MASS NOUN] British:

The upper side of a round of beef from the outside of the leg:

Usage examples:

– large cubes of silverside

– Less expensive cuts such as brisket, silverside or topside have plenty of collagen, a protein present in connective tissues.

– My roast veal was three rectangular pieces of beast with the grey, gristly flavour of school silverside.

– But how to make good use of the topside, silverside and thick flank was always less well understood.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Wiard Sterk : My first choice was silverside, but was led astray by the images with locations of cuts.
9 mins
sounds like a mouse steak to me ;)
agree Kirsten Bodart : Hmm, some of the pictures seem to have turned topside and silverside around. The BBC is right again!
4 hrs
Thanks Kirsten!
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9 hrs
Reference:

Another ref found just by looking on the www (!!!). In Dutch though...

Maar gisteren had ik mazzel. In de vitrine lag een rundermuis. Dat is een mooi, regelmatig stuk van de bil, waar Nederlandse slagers vaak carpaccio van snijden of rookvlees van maken. Je kunt het ook braden als rosbief, en dat is verrukkelijk. Lastig is alleen, dat het vlees heel mager is, en daarom snel uitdroogt en taai wordt, als je het verkeerd braadt. Maar er is een handige truc die zelfs voor geduchte fornuisvrezers makkelijk uitvoerbaar is.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/oken-en-eten/rundermuis~a1028161/
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