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Mar 12, 2013 11:08
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English term
steers
individual or social fear calculus
English to Serbian
Law/Patents
Law (general)
penology
General deterrence involves social control and central to this is the ‘social fear calculus’. It works in a similar way to the individual fear calculus,.....
Proposed translations
(Serbian)
| 4 -1 | analiza straha od pojedinca ili društva |
Goran Tasic
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| 2 -1 | individualno ili kolektivno balansiranje straha od posledica |
Daryo
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Proposed translations
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Goran Tasic
Serbia
Serbia
Native in Serbian
Works in field
Serbia
Experienced technical translator
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Works in: English to Serbian, German to Serbian, Serbian to English, and 2 more.
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60
analiza straha od pojedinca ili društva
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: neutral as in undecided: your reference is about mild psychiatric disorders - phobias - the ST is about "normal" behaviour
54 mins
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| disagree |
Mira Stepanovic
: Mislim da se u navedenom kontekstu ne radi o strahovima/fobijama od pojedinca ili društva, v. ref.
56 mins
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individualno ili kolektivno balansiranje straha od posledica
"fear calculus" / "proračun straha" je ovde nalaženje balansa / ravnoteže između straha od posledica (koje nastupaju kasnije) i privlačnosti postizanja neke dobiti/zadovoljstva (sada/odmah).
Po svojoj sadržini "calculus" je ovde "finding a balance".
Po svojoj sadržini "calculus" je ovde "finding a balance".
Note from asker:
| hvala. tekst koji je slijedio dao je objašnjenje, tako da je bilo dovoljno prevesti kao"proračun straha" |
Peer comment(s):
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Mira Stepanovic
: Mislim da to uopšte ne prenosi značenje. / Meni se predlog koleginice ipv čini najprihvatljivijim - u samom tekstu je dato objašnjenje pojma. Ne balansira se strah, pravi se računica da li je veći strah od sankcija ili potreba da se izvrši delo.
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ni ja nisam preterano zadovoljan ovom varijatom (level 2 only) - "balansiranje" jeste smisao, ali bi zahtevalo da se spomenu i "zadovoljvstva/dobiti" i onde to postaje predugo... imate neki predlog?// balansira se "strah od kazne" i "privlačnost dela".
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Reference comments
1 hr
Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Serbia
Native in Serbian
Works in field
Serbia
Scientific & Tech. translator, Engineer
Native in: Serbian 
, Serbo-Croat
Works in: English to Serbian, English to Serbo-Croat, Serbian to English, and 11 more.
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56
Reference:
Ovo je identičan tekst, na str. 22:
http://books.google.rs/books?id=JX2IKW8EpXIC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA2...
Individual fear calculus
The desire to offend is kept in check by the fear of the consequences should the person be caught. The rationality of the offender deciding is emphasised in this approach, with the offender deciding that the pleasure of crime cannot overwigh the pain of imprisonment.
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General deterrence involves social control and central to this is the ‘social fear calculus’. It works in a similar way to the individual fear calculus, but the individual is not subjected to the pain himself o herself; rather the individual sees the pain of others and is deterred from the activity that led to it, because he or she does not want to be subjected to such sufferng. It relates to wider social relations and, although directed against an individual, is intended to have implications beyond the person who is actually punished.
http://books.google.rs/books?id=JX2IKW8EpXIC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA2...
Individual fear calculus
The desire to offend is kept in check by the fear of the consequences should the person be caught. The rationality of the offender deciding is emphasised in this approach, with the offender deciding that the pleasure of crime cannot overwigh the pain of imprisonment.
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General deterrence involves social control and central to this is the ‘social fear calculus’. It works in a similar way to the individual fear calculus, but the individual is not subjected to the pain himself o herself; rather the individual sees the pain of others and is deterred from the activity that led to it, because he or she does not want to be subjected to such sufferng. It relates to wider social relations and, although directed against an individual, is intended to have implications beyond the person who is actually punished.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Daryo
: ostaje još mali problem kako to prevesti...
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Hvala, da, to je koliko shvatam strah od sankcija koje slede... ali to treba formulisati.
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Discussion
http://books.google.hr/books?id=JX2IKW8EpXIC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA2...
Pogledajte sadržaj.
Naslov izvornog teksta je "Penology":
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Пенологија
Пенологија је научна дисциплина која се бави изучавањем затворске заједнице како би се сврха кажњавања, како ју је заједница поставила, односно суд пресудио кроз затворску казну, извршила над учиниоцем кривичног дела.
možda: procena / proračun / odmeravanje / računica + nepoželjnih / nepovoljnih posledica ?
i onda ovo:
južnoameričkih death squads, “računica straha" (calculus of fear)
(fusnota 28)
http://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=...
možda je: individualna ili društvena računica straha
najviše zbog pojašnjenja navedenog u fusnoti 28, ali nisam uopće sigurna, zato odg u discussion-u, a ne znam ni je li "računica" prihvatljivo u srpskom