Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
bibliographic abbreviation
English answer:
id., idem
Added to glossary by
Nick Lingris
May 30, 2005 16:53
19 yrs ago
English term
bibliographic abbreviation
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Hi folks, I have a bibliographic reference in an article I'm translating from Italian to English.
The Italian uses "id." (idem) to avoid writing the name of the same author who wrote a different book.
As an example:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; idem, Book B, New York 1998.
Some style guides I've read say to avoid using idem. Others go on about ibid. and op.cit. but don't discuss idem at all.
My question is: do I use idem in this fashion, or should I put:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; John D. Smith, Book B, New York 1998.
TIA
Catherine
The Italian uses "id." (idem) to avoid writing the name of the same author who wrote a different book.
As an example:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; idem, Book B, New York 1998.
Some style guides I've read say to avoid using idem. Others go on about ibid. and op.cit. but don't discuss idem at all.
My question is: do I use idem in this fashion, or should I put:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; John D. Smith, Book B, New York 1998.
TIA
Catherine
Responses
| 5 +7 | id. |
Nick Lingris
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| 5 +1 | ibid |
David Russi
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| 5 | Exactly as you have put it because... |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
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+7
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Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
The word is my oyster
Native in: Greek 
Works in: English to Greek, Greek to English, Greek
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id.
Use the abbreviation of idem, id. (not italicized).
…It is used generally to avoid repetition of author’s name in footnotes or bibliographical matter. [Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors]
Also, according to the Style Manual of the United States Government Printing Office.
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Therefore, either:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; idem, Book B, New York 1998.
or:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; id., Book B, New York 1998.
idem in italics, id. not italicized
…It is used generally to avoid repetition of author’s name in footnotes or bibliographical matter. [Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors]
Also, according to the Style Manual of the United States Government Printing Office.
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Note added at 22 mins (2005-05-30 17:15:51 GMT)
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Therefore, either:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; idem, Book B, New York 1998.
or:
John D. Smith, Book A, New York 1995; id., Book B, New York 1998.
idem in italics, id. not italicized
Peer comment(s):
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Nanny Wintjens
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Thank you.
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Can Altinbay
: I also see the underscore __ to indicate the same.
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Thanks.
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paolamonaco
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Thanks.
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Alfa Trans (X)
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Thanks, Marju.
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Jonathan MacKerron
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Thanks, Jonathan.
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Margaret Lagoyianni
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Thank you, Margaret. Greetings from Athens.
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silfilla
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Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks a lot!"
+1
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David Russi
United States
United States
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English
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United States
30+ years, stopped counting...
Native in: English 
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Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
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ibid
We headed straight to Merriam-Webster Online, a dictionary and all-purpose English language resource, where we learned that "ibid" is short for ibidem, Latin for "in the same place." It's an expression used in bibliographies when authors repeatedly cite the same source. So instead of typing out Sharks: Mighty Finned Killers of the Deep every time you refer to the book you used in your science project, you simply type "Ibid" for each reference after the first one, then cite the page number to which you're referring.
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Peer comment(s):
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Nico Staes
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Lucie Brione
: I think Catherine is referring to the same author, but a different book. Ibid. is used when referring to the same source (i.e. same book), so that would not be appropriate here.
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humbird
: I agree with Lucie.
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
France
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Exactly as you have put it because...
it is less confusing. Id is a correct abbreviation of idem but also of identity so your idea would be best, I think.
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