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English term or phrase:
are common with
English answer:
have (n variables) in common with
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MoiraB
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are common with
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Mathematics & Statistics
I'm language-editing an academic paper (written in English by French-speakers) about academic success among first-year university students in France and Belgium. A questionnaire-based survey has been carried out and a total of 145 variables have been extracted from the questionnaire, such as age, parents’ education, and perceptions of academic life. They're now discussing the results.
France
Of the 145 variables, 34 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in four variables.
Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 14 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in ten variables. Seven of them **are common with** the 34 variables of France.
France + Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 43 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about three in ten variables. 25 of these variables **are common with** the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium
Would it make sense in statistical lingo to rephrase this as "overlap with"?
France
Of the 145 variables, 34 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in four variables.
Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 14 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in ten variables. Seven of them **are common with** the 34 variables of France.
France + Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 43 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about three in ten variables. 25 of these variables **are common with** the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium
Would it make sense in statistical lingo to rephrase this as "overlap with"?
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| 4 +1 | are the same as |
DLyons
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| 4 | belong to (the set) |
M.A.B.
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| 4 | are common to |
Cilian O'Tuama
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are the same as
I'd probably state it as "have n variables in common with".
I wouldn't use "overlap" myself.
I wouldn't use "overlap" myself.
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Sabine Akabayov, PhD
: how can 25 variables be the same as 34 variables? "overlapping sets" is a common mathematical term
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The 25 are the same as those in a subset of the 48 - that's why I'd say "in common with". To me, it doesn't seem clear what "overlap" might mean in this context.
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Cilian O'Tuama
: "in common with" could work. I don't like "overlap" here either. Sets overlap (=intersection, Venn diagrams), variables don't.
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Thanks Cilian.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I get it at last ;-) With a little reworking of the sentence, this will do nicely. Thanks, everyone."
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belong to (the set)
or - are included etc.
This is how I'd understand it.
e.g. Seven of them belong to the set of the 34 variables of France.
25 of these variables are included in the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium
although I'm not sure if the English is perfect here - let a native decide
This is how I'd understand it.
e.g. Seven of them belong to the set of the 34 variables of France.
25 of these variables are included in the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium
although I'm not sure if the English is perfect here - let a native decide
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are common to
Belgium:
Set A contains 14 elements, Set B contains 34 elements, and 7 elements are common to both sets.
France + Belgium:
Set A contains 43 elements, Set B contains 48 elements, and 25 elements are common to both sets.
Another approach.
You could say the sets overlap, but not the elements.
Or as DLyons says, the sets "have n variables in common".
Set A contains 14 elements, Set B contains 34 elements, and 7 elements are common to both sets.
France + Belgium:
Set A contains 43 elements, Set B contains 48 elements, and 25 elements are common to both sets.
Another approach.
You could say the sets overlap, but not the elements.
Or as DLyons says, the sets "have n variables in common".
Discussion
First they compare the results for France and Belgium separately, and identify 34 and 14 variables respectively linked to academic success, then they combine the results for France and Belgium (last bit of text quoted). The 'set' mentioned comprises the aforementioned 34 (France) and 14 (Belgium) variables i.e. a total of 48. So the 25 variables 'are common with' this set of 48 variables.
But I still don't get how x variables can be the same as y variables when x and y are different numbers....
But I still don't get how x variables can "be the same as" y variables when x and y are different numbers....