Sep 9, 2008 17:17
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for the sake of good consequences

English Social Sciences Philosophy
Hi, can you please help me interpret the sentence below?

"Max Weber famously distinguished an ethic of ultimate ends from an ethic of responsibility. In the former, absolute moral imperatives must not be violated **for the sake of good consequences**, but an ethic of responsibility must focus on the results".

Does this mean that if absolute moral imperatives are violated, bad consequences will ensue? Or am I completely out of track here?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Adele

Discussion

David Moore (X) Sep 9, 2008:
The aim As Mark says, the end does not justify the means, but he adds no explanation for your question in there. You're not totally off-track, but you have gone further than logic permits. All it means is that the absolute moral imperatives must not be violated to get a good result. By extension, if they are NOT violated, the desired result MAY not be achieved; it does not mean that they WILL not be achieved. Or that bad consequences will follow.

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the end does not justify the means

A popular truism. Means you can't do bad "immoral" things, even if the end goal is "good."

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The other ethic is also commonly described as: "If you wanna make an omelet, you got to break some eggs," meaning the end does justify the means.
Peer comment(s):

agree Patricia Townshend (X)
45 mins
Thank you, Patricia.
agree Jack Doughty
1 hr
Thank you, Jack.
agree Ken Cox : and my sympathy for Adele -- even a native speaker has to read this twice to figure out what is meant.
1 hr
Thank you, Ken. Philosophy tends to be pesky.
agree Milagros Gutierrez Castro : for me the key word is "absolute" along with imperative, meaning that it would be justifiable to violate some "minor" moral principles
1 hr
Thank you, Maria.
agree Demi Ebrite : One must not go against their moral imperatives in order to obtain or create good consequences.
3 hrs
Thank you, debrite.
agree Heather Shaw
4 hrs
Thank you, Heather.
agree orientalhorizon
8 hrs
Thank you, oriental.
agree Phong Le
10 hrs
Thank you, phong.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Mark and a special thanks to David for his comment in the "discussion" section. I was simply reading the sentence the other way round (i.e. the only way to get good consequences is to adhere to strict moral principles). Thanks for enlightening me! :-)"
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