Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

broad

English answer:

soft

Added to glossary by Mark Nathan
Feb 27, 2014 07:35
10 yrs ago
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English term

broad

English Other Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
Mouth feel _ firm, juicy and not too broad. A long finish, closes with aromas of chocolate and toasted spices
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Feb 28, 2014 12:55: Mark Nathan Created KOG entry

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soft

If a wine was too broad it would probably be lacking acidity, making it "flat".

In this context of a generally positive tasting note, I would avoid "flat" and say soft or rounded.

See exert below from Wine and Spirit Education Trust

http://www.wsetglobal.com/documents/cag_part_2_tasting_2013....
For most people acids are detected most strongly
at the sides of the tongue, where they cause
a
sharp, tingling sensation, and cause your mouth to
water, as it tries to restore its natural acid balance.
The more your mouth waters, and the lon
ger it
waters, the higher the level of acid in the wine.
Note that if you are dehydrated when tasting, your
mouth will water less. Wine is an acidic drink, so
even a wine described as having

low acidity

will
be acidic compared to many other beverages,
th
ough as a wine it will feel broad, round and soft.
High acidity tends to be found in wines made from
grapes ripened in cool conditions, and causes
these wines to be especially mouthwatering
Peer comment(s):

agree P.L.F. Persio : full-bodied answer, Mark;-)
16 mins
agree Yvonne Gallagher
58 mins
neutral Carol Gullidge : it's funny but 'broad' doesn't even get a mention in Lexivin/Lexiwine. But in any case, the phrasing here (but not too broad) would suggest that broadness is not a good thing, as opposed to softness (souplesse, moelleux, etc), which is!
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Hi Carol, yes I know what you mean. Although if you think of acidity, a little is desirable, but too much isn't..
agree Charles Davis : I'm coming round to your view, Mark. This is about mouth feel, after all. Broad and soft in this context regularly go together; they're almost synonyms. Sort of bland in a negative sense. And softness may be good but you can have too much of a good thing!
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full

broad also means full. [Eg. We awoke to broad daylight.]
So, Mouth feel _ firm, juicy and not too full.

(Not very native; but we translators have to translate all kinds of text--native and non-native).
Peer comment(s):

neutral Carol Gullidge : what we need here is what the word "broad" means in terms of wine speak! Unfortunately, 'broad' doesn't even get a mention in my wine dictionary, but the wording ('not too…') would suggest negative connotations, whereas fullness is a positive property
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full-bodied but lacking in finesse

It doesn't have to be a negative term, but here it seems to be, so the second half of my answer is probably relevant: not too broad would mean not too "simple" in flavour.

"Broad
Full-bodied but lacking in acidity and therefore also lacking in finesse."
http://www.bcawa.ca/winemaking/words.htm

"Let me start with “broad.” Generally, it will mean a full-bodied wine, not sharp or angular, and not light and delicate. Think “broad shoulders.” “Broad” can also mean that the flavors themselves are ample, obvious and straightforward, extending throughout the wine. If a wine is described as having “broad plum flavors,” then I’d expect that the plum flavor was the dominant note. It’s neither a positive nor a negative term, simply a personality trait."
http://www.winespectator.com/drvinny/show/id/43908

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-02-27 09:44:19 GMT)
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I think the sense is probably not too obvious or straightforward in flavour. It could include the idea of not being too soft, since broadness implies lack of acidity (as Mark has already said), but I think the main sense is being "too broad" is lacking in character and distinctiveness, so this wine is not like that: it has sufficient subtlety and delicacy.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

glossary

broad gets a mention here - sounds like it means pretty much what the word broad means in everyday speech:

http://www.wineanorak.com/glossary/glossary.htm
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