Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

côtes dégagées

English translation:

ribs moving freely

Added to glossary by Drmanu49
Oct 18, 2013 09:16
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French term

côtes dégagées

French to English Medical Medical (general) X-ray report
This person has been in a motocross accident: "douzes paires de côtes sont dégagées" and earlier in the text: "C7-T1 dégagé sur la vue du nageur". There is a fracture at D12 level.
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Oct 25, 2013 10:56: Drmanu49 changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/37108">Gwynneth Kably's</a> old entry - "côtes dégagées"" to ""ribs moving freely""

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Discussion

Michael Barnett Oct 21, 2013:
... Not obstructed in the sense that they are clearly seen, not in the sense that they are not free to move.
Michael Barnett Oct 21, 2013:
@Liz Yes, I think it just means that the mentioned parts are visible - not cropped out or otherwise obstructed.
liz askew Oct 18, 2013:
Hi, Jessie could well have a point here (on further reflection) otherwise how will the second part of the sentence make sense (C7-T1 dégagé)
see:
EUdict | dégager, distinguer, identifier, reconnaître, discerner ...
www.eudict.com/?lang=freeng&word=dégager, distinguer...
French-English translation for dégager, distinguer, identifier, reconnaître, ... dégager · distinguish, release, flow down, flow off, free, extricate, liberate, open, .
liz askew Oct 18, 2013:
Hi, Jessie could well have a point here (on further reflection) otherwise how will the second part of the sentence make sense (C7-T1 dégagé)
see:
EUdict | dégager, distinguer, identifier, reconnaître, discerner ...
www.eudict.com/?lang=freeng&word=dégager, distinguer...
French-English translation for dégager, distinguer, identifier, reconnaître, ... dégager · distinguish, release, flow down, flow off, free, extricate, liberate, open, .
Jessie Nelson Oct 18, 2013:
interpretation interpretation that is fine.

Proposed translations

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ribs moving freely

12 pairs means all ribs are free tp move for breathing for example.

True ribs definition of True ribs in the Free Online Encyclopedia.
encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/True+ribs‎Traduire cette page
During inhalation the ribs move upward and farther apart, expanding the ... In fish and amphibians the ventral tip of the ribs ends freely, being located in the thick ...


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Mobilizing the Ribs: Healthy Spine Movement in Many Directions
www.centerworks.com › Blog‎Traduire cette page
If you can move your ribs, you can move your spine! For Pilates our goal is not to isolate the rib and spine movement, but to incorporate it into freely moving and ...
Plus d'articles de l'auteur suivant : Aliesa George

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or clearly visible according to Michael's understanding. But dégagée definitely also means able to move freely in French.

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But "identified" would NOT be an adequate translation in this case. The French would have termed it differently as "discernées" or "identifiées".

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If they are clearly seen, it means they are free to move. No mass is obstructing or hindering natural respiratory movements.
Peer comment(s):

agree B D Finch
16 mins
Thank you.;-)
agree Yvonne Gallagher
38 mins
Thank you.
neutral liz askew : based on my discussion entries
5 hrs
Thank you Liz.
agree Bertrand Leduc
8 hrs
Thank you Bertrand.
disagree Michael Barnett : This is a static x-ray. How would one make such a conclusion?//No mention of that. And what would prevent any or all 12 pairs of ribs from moving that would not be mentioned in the report? Regarding Finch, "freely moving" is a bizarre way to say no fx.
1 day 11 hrs
With a series of images
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks"
3 mins

dislocated ribs

What else?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Drmanu49 : that would be all ribs dislocated? I think in this case it just means moving freely i.e. NO fracture or dislocation.
21 mins
I think you are right and certain the patient would be happier with your diagnosis!
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2 hrs

cut corners

There is a comparative wording in an English expression that can establish similiarities between French and English
Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : I was too hasty, not for the first time!
3 hrs
disagree B D Finch : No, there isn't.
4 hrs
disagree DLyons : It's closer than GT's "unobstructed coastline".
338 days
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5 hrs

are identified

"Twelve pairs of ribs are identified. This is a description of what was found in the X-ray.
Example sentence:

In this X-ray, twelve pairs of ribs were identified.

Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : sorry about my earlier haste!
3 mins
Hi Liz: The first reference you listed come back as "unfindable"
disagree B D Finch : How do you connect this with the French (other than Google Translate, which really isn't a valid reference)?
1 hr
The report concerns X-ray findings unless you believe someone manually counted the ribs. There are 12 thoracic vertebrae. The article selected was a good one, and beyond that I do not intend to engage you in an exchange of barbs. If you disagree with my i
agree Michael Barnett : Having read tens of thousands of x-ray reports in my career, I believe that your translation is correct.
1 day 6 hrs
Thank you Michael. Sometimes the translation is simpler than we think.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

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La radiographie thoracique de face
www.fmp-usmba.ac.ma/.../Radiologie/.../index.html‎Translate this page
dégager les omoplates. Dégagés. Non dégagés. 00:40. cliché bien de face. 00:35. bonne inspiration. Bonne. Mauvaise. 00:30. Technique de réalisation.

radiologie-daumesnil.fr/7-2‎Translate this page
Accueil; Examens Radiologiques. Cone Beam • Densitométrie ... Position: Allongée sur le dos, l'abdomen bien dégagé. Des inspirations profondes avec courtes ...
Interglot - "unhampered" translated from English to French
www.interglot.com › Dictionaries › English/French‎
unhampered (unobstructed; unimpeded; unhindered). dégagé; libre; en toute liberté • dégagé adj. libre adj. en toute liberté adj ..


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Lecture 2: Osteopathic Approach to shortness of breath | Quizlet
quizlet.com/8371486/new‎
-Normal motion of the thoracic cage is dependent upon *****unimpeded motion of the ribs*****, thoracic vertebrae and their attached muscles and myofascial elements.
Note from asker:
Thanks, Liz, that is very helpful.
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