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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Schwingdurchmesser

English translation:

swing over bed (diameter)

Added to glossary by Johannes Gleim
Jul 23, 2020 18:40
3 yrs ago
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German term

Schwingdurchmesser

German to English Tech/Engineering Metallurgy / Casting Lathe manufacturer blurb
"diese unterscheiden sich hauptsächlich im Schwingdurchmesser bzw. dem Umlaufdurchmesser über dem Bett".

There is a clear distinction made between "Schwingdurchmesser" and "Umlaufdurchmesser".

Please can anyone help?
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 swing over bed (diameter)
4 +2 swing diameter
Change log

Aug 4, 2020 19:34: Johannes Gleim Created KOG entry

Discussion

Kim Metzger Jul 25, 2020:
What does the term “swing” on a lathe mean? The first number is referred to as the swing of the lathe which is the maximum diameter of a piece or work that can fit in the lathe. If you have a lathe and want to measure for the swing, you simply measure from the bed of the lathe to the center of the spindle, and then double that measurement. If you measure 6″, then you have a 12″ swing lathe.https://ozarktoolmanuals.com/ozarkshoptalkblog/how-to-measur...
Kim Metzger Jul 25, 2020:
@Daniel Agree that "Schwingdurchmesser" and "Umlaufdurchmesser" are synonyms. Umlaufdurchmesser – swing over bed Langenscheidt
Drehdurchmesser – turning diameter
Schwingdurchmesser – swing diameter
David Moore (X) Jul 25, 2020:
@Paul:@Johannes: I advise caution when reading with "bzw." It is very, very often used where it joins two synonymous terms. Perhap Johannes could clarify whether these two are in fact such terms.
Daniel Arnold (X) Jul 24, 2020:
Manufacturer websites seem to use both turning diameter and swing diameter. Not an expert in the field, I wonder if both are used synonymous...

Proposed translations

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swing over bed (diameter)

Man unterscheidet folgende Begriffe, die beim Kauf einer Drehmaschine berücksichtigt werden müssen:
• Drehlänge zwischen den Spitzen, Alternativangabe: Spitzenweite
• Umlaufdurchmesser über dem Bett, Alternativangabe: Spitzenhöhe
• Umlaufdurchmesser über dem Bettschlitten
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drehmaschine

found also "Schwingdurchmesser":

Die Heyligenstaedt & Comp. Werkzeugmaschinenfabrik wurde 1876 von Louis Heyligenstaedt und Alexander Sartorius in Gießen gegründet.
:
• Kurbelwellenbearbeitungszentren, Schwingdurchmesser bis 1500 mm, Bearbeitungslängen bis 12000 mm
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyligenstaedt
(probably propriary term)

Drehdurchmesser bzw. Umlaufdurchmesser über Bett und Bettschlitten) und unterschiedlichen Drehlängen (Bild 1).
https://www.maschinewerkzeug.de/basics/drehen/drehmaschinen/...

Dreh Ø turning diameter
Umlauf- Ø swing diameter
https://docplayer.org/70459431-13922-duplo-tv50-4-cnc-00-40-...

serial number 2013 centre distance 800 mm swing diameter over bed slide 300 mm
:
turning diameter over bed: 0360 mm turning diameter over slide rest: 215 mm
:
turning diameter over bed: 315 mm turning diameter over support: 200 mm turning length: 550 mm swing diameter over face slide: 200 mm
https://www.machineseeker.com/Center-lathes-300-399mm-turnin...

Hyperturn 200 Powermill
Swing diameter 1050 mm
Max. Turning diameter 1000 mm
Max. Spindle speed 1800 rpm
https://www.emco-world.com/en/products/turning.html

Hyperturn 200 Powermill
:
Max. turning diameter 1000 mm
Max. part length with tailstock 3200 / 4200 / 5200 / 6200
Max. part length 6100 mm
Swing over bed 1050 mm
https://www.emco-world.com/en/products/turning/cat/6/d/2/p/1...

2 axis CNC turning center, 15" hydraulic chuck, 22.4" dia. max swing over bed, 19" dia. max turning dia., 4.62 dia. hole thru spindle, 40.2" max turning length, 9" max capacity steady rest
http://www.sun-mfg.com/machines.htm

Horizontal lathe SKODA S2500x12000
YOM: 1967
:
Specification:
Turning diameter: at least 1600 mm
Swing over bed: 1250 mm (diameter 2500 mm)
Swing over support: 1000 mm (diameter 2000 mm)
Centre distance (DBC): 12000 mm
Bed width: 3000 mm
https://www.emtc.lt/en/lathes/horizontal-lathes/horizontal-l...

JET wood-turning lathes offer you a range of swing-over-bed sizes and centre distances -The heavy-duty, solid cast iron [...]
gruetzmacher-maschinenbau.com
Die Drechselmaschinen von JET bieten Ihnen diverse Drehdurchmesser über Bett sowie Spitzenweiten - Die schweren, massiven Grauguss-Konstruktionen [...]
gruetzmacher-maschinenbau.com

Biggest swing over bed mm 880
asset-trade.de
größter Umlaufdurchmesser über Bett mm 880
asset-trade.d
https://www.linguee.de/englisch-deutsch/uebersetzung/swing o...

swing over bed [TECH.] Drehdurchmesser über Bett
swing over cross slide [TECH.] Drehdurchmesser über dem Querschlitten
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/swing over bed

Swing over bed
The diameter of the largest workpiece that can be rotated on the spindle without hitting the bed.
Swing over the carriage
The diameter of the largest workpiece that can rotate over the carriage without hitting it.
:
Turning A lathe operation in which metal is removed from the outside diameter of the workpiece, thus reducing its diameter to a desired size.
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_lathe/Introduction/introducti...

Note: The turning diameter differs from the swing over bed.
Peer comment(s):
agree Edith Kelly
2 days 18 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Level of detail way beyond what I expected! Thank you!"
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10 mins

swing diameter

"Umlaufdurchmesser" corresponds to turning diameter
Reference:

https://www.isabelleknops.com/en/lathes

https://www.sim-impex.com/index.php/en/products/railway-industry/train-maintenance/272-vertical-turning-lathes

Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
3 mins
neutral Daniel Arnold (X) : u sure? https://www.hwacheon-europe.com/de/Horizontale-Drehzentren/H... says exactly the opposite, i.e. that Schwingdurchmesser is turning diameter.
15 hrs
disagree Johannes Gleim : No, it's quite contrary. The "Umlaufdurchmesser" corresponds to the swing over bed, resp. over the carriage.
20 hrs
agree Cillie Swart : thanks for sharing! I agree.
1 day 21 hrs
agree Kim Metzger : "swing diameter" is the same as swing over bed. http://tinyurl.com/7w5fm25
2 days 1 hr
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