May 4 21:44
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United Kingdom
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Native in: Polish 
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English
z magla
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Kontekst; fragment powieści:
"(...) wierzył w te wieści, choćby je usłyszał od stróża nocnego we własnej kamienicy, albo przyniosła mu je z magla jego ślubna małżonka (...)"
I teraz:
Akcja ma miejsce w Europie w latach 1940's.
Chodzi o to, by oddać kontekst społeczno-kulturowy, dla Anglosasów.
Kobiety spotykały się stulecia temu przy studniach, nad rzeką, etc., i wymieniały ploteczki. Przy czynnościach "pralniczych".
Na przełomie XX i XXI wieku, a także dziś, spotykają się w publicznych pralniach (launderettes w UK na przykład).
Czy wtedy w GB funkcjonowało coś podobnego do naszego "magla", gdzie kobiety mogłyby się wymieniać ploteczkami? W sensie zakładów maglujących pościel? A jeśli nie - to gdzie?
"Ironing shop" słabo gugluje niestety.
I nie chodzi mi o coś takiego jak:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/polish-to-english/idioms-maxims-s...
Z góry dzięki, Rafał
"(...) wierzył w te wieści, choćby je usłyszał od stróża nocnego we własnej kamienicy, albo przyniosła mu je z magla jego ślubna małżonka (...)"
I teraz:
Akcja ma miejsce w Europie w latach 1940's.
Chodzi o to, by oddać kontekst społeczno-kulturowy, dla Anglosasów.
Kobiety spotykały się stulecia temu przy studniach, nad rzeką, etc., i wymieniały ploteczki. Przy czynnościach "pralniczych".
Na przełomie XX i XXI wieku, a także dziś, spotykają się w publicznych pralniach (launderettes w UK na przykład).
Czy wtedy w GB funkcjonowało coś podobnego do naszego "magla", gdzie kobiety mogłyby się wymieniać ploteczkami? W sensie zakładów maglujących pościel? A jeśli nie - to gdzie?
"Ironing shop" słabo gugluje niestety.
I nie chodzi mi o coś takiego jak:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/polish-to-english/idioms-maxims-s...
Z góry dzięki, Rafał
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | clothes line/wash tub/back fence gossip |
Darius Saczuk
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| 3 +1 | mangle house//laundromat |
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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| 3 | from the town |
geopiet
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| 3 | [gossip] from the hairdresser's |
Andrzej Ziomek
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Proposed translations
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22 mins
Darius Saczuk
United States
United States
Native in Polish
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
The Slanguage Buff
Native in: Polish (Variant: Standard-Poland) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: Polish to English, Spanish to English, English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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2145
Selected
clothes line/wash tub/back fence gossip
These would do the trick.
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A few examples:
DayeTime: Gossip in the modern age
Avoyelles Today
https://www.avoyellestoday.com › news-editorial › day...
The entity itself is not inherently nefarious, but it has expanded the “clothes line gossip” factor of a bygone era by a significant level. People haven't ...
History Teacher's Magazine
google.com
https://books.google.com › books
1919 · History
..savors a little too much of "clothes - line gossip " about a hated neighbor rather than of the substantial facts of history . In spite of these distressing limitations...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › commentisfree › feb
Feb 15, 2016 — They claimed women were not interested in voting, that they were more focused on trivial things like housework and back-fence gossip ...
Five Stories by Kunikida Doppo
Jstor
https://www.jstor.org › stable
by K Doppo · 1972 · ...engaged in back fence gossip as though it were some sort of contest to see which one could outdo the other. When the gardener and his wife moved in,...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › books › booksblog › mar
Mar 20, 2007 — ... of back-fence gossip and the simple investigation of our fellow human beings. (A bit like my favourite books, in fact.) Anyway - a few final ...
Star Tribune
https://www.startribune.com › in-the-age-of-social-medi...
Nov 9, 2017 — ... of back-fence gossip that never used to go beyond that block, much less the neighborhood. Rana May, who moderates a Facebook group for
Foro Flamenco
http://www.foroflamenco.com › Discussions
Dec 31, 2003 — Old women and back fence gossip. The little old ladies of the Irish Catholic neighborhood where I grew up...
The Catholic News Archive
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org › ...
... women along many lines,—or what they seem to be—a furious fad which will ... back-fence gossip and give them something worthwhile to talk about; that in bringing ...
National Library of Australia
https://trove.nla.gov.au › newspaper › article
7. v'! ? The Gossipping Sex: Who talks most;... rumours over the back fence gossip? ' "Women, ...
Condo Life Doesn't Stop Neighborliness
The Oklahoman
https://www.oklahoman.com › story › news › 1984/08/15
Aug 15, 1984 — About a dozen women meet for a morning social hour (a bit to sip, a bit to nibble and the back-fence gossip) in the home of a member then on ...
The interview, companion volume to 'Enquire within' [by R.K. ...
google.com
https://books.google.com › books
Robert Kemp Philp · 1856
... GOSSIP OVER THE WASHTUB
Speaking While Female Speech Bank
https://speakingwhilefemale.co › education-davidson
https://speakingwhilefemale.co/education-davidson/
Aside from these particulars, the general manner of living in the homes where most of the colored girls’ and women’s lives are spent is productive of disease. Go into the miserable shanties and hovels in town or country in which the majority of them live and you have all about you germinators of disease. Insufficiency, if not actual want, is plainly written every where on fire, food, and raiment, while the cracks in floor and walls tell their own tale of suffering and exposure. Here mothers and daughters toil from Monday morning till Sunday morning over the wash tub or ironing table or at the sewing machine, as often as necessary benumbing the brain and straining the back by carrying huge baskets of clothes on their heads longer or shorter distances...
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Note added at 1 hr (2024-05-04 23:07:33 GMT)
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A few examples:
DayeTime: Gossip in the modern age
Avoyelles Today
https://www.avoyellestoday.com › news-editorial › day...
The entity itself is not inherently nefarious, but it has expanded the “clothes line gossip” factor of a bygone era by a significant level. People haven't ...
History Teacher's Magazine
google.com
https://books.google.com › books
1919 · History
..savors a little too much of "clothes - line gossip " about a hated neighbor rather than of the substantial facts of history . In spite of these distressing limitations...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › commentisfree › feb
Feb 15, 2016 — They claimed women were not interested in voting, that they were more focused on trivial things like housework and back-fence gossip ...
Five Stories by Kunikida Doppo
Jstor
https://www.jstor.org › stable
by K Doppo · 1972 · ...engaged in back fence gossip as though it were some sort of contest to see which one could outdo the other. When the gardener and his wife moved in,...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › books › booksblog › mar
Mar 20, 2007 — ... of back-fence gossip and the simple investigation of our fellow human beings. (A bit like my favourite books, in fact.) Anyway - a few final ...
Star Tribune
https://www.startribune.com › in-the-age-of-social-medi...
Nov 9, 2017 — ... of back-fence gossip that never used to go beyond that block, much less the neighborhood. Rana May, who moderates a Facebook group for
Foro Flamenco
http://www.foroflamenco.com › Discussions
Dec 31, 2003 — Old women and back fence gossip. The little old ladies of the Irish Catholic neighborhood where I grew up...
The Catholic News Archive
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org › ...
... women along many lines,—or what they seem to be—a furious fad which will ... back-fence gossip and give them something worthwhile to talk about; that in bringing ...
National Library of Australia
https://trove.nla.gov.au › newspaper › article
7. v'! ? The Gossipping Sex: Who talks most;... rumours over the back fence gossip? ' "Women, ...
Condo Life Doesn't Stop Neighborliness
The Oklahoman
https://www.oklahoman.com › story › news › 1984/08/15
Aug 15, 1984 — About a dozen women meet for a morning social hour (a bit to sip, a bit to nibble and the back-fence gossip) in the home of a member then on ...
The interview, companion volume to 'Enquire within' [by R.K. ...
google.com
https://books.google.com › books
Robert Kemp Philp · 1856
... GOSSIP OVER THE WASHTUB
Speaking While Female Speech Bank
https://speakingwhilefemale.co › education-davidson
https://speakingwhilefemale.co/education-davidson/
Aside from these particulars, the general manner of living in the homes where most of the colored girls’ and women’s lives are spent is productive of disease. Go into the miserable shanties and hovels in town or country in which the majority of them live and you have all about you germinators of disease. Insufficiency, if not actual want, is plainly written every where on fire, food, and raiment, while the cracks in floor and walls tell their own tale of suffering and exposure. Here mothers and daughters toil from Monday morning till Sunday morning over the wash tub or ironing table or at the sewing machine, as often as necessary benumbing the brain and straining the back by carrying huge baskets of clothes on their heads longer or shorter distances...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Dziękuję :)"
52 mins
from the town
jesli możesz tak zmienić
+1
2 hrs
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
United States
Native in Polish
&
English
United States
On time, on target, on budget.
Native in: English , Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish, Russian to Polish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
580
mangle house//laundromat
A mangle (British) or wringer (American)[1] is a mechanical laundry aid consisting of two rollers in a sturdy frame, connected by cogs and (in its home version) powered by a hand crank or by electricity. While the appliance was originally used to squeeze water from wet laundry, today mangles are used to press or flatten sheets, tablecloths, kitchen towels, or clothing and other laundry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangle_(machine)
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Mangle Houses were once a common feature of most towns and villages where customers could have their laundry pressed for a penny or two.
https://cornishstory.com/2022/10/23/the-mangle-house/#:~:tex...
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In the US, it is the laundromat, one of few places where women might meet for a good gossip these days.
a self-service laundry having coin-operated washers, driers, etc.; launderette.https://www.dictionary.com/browse/laundromat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangle_(machine)
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Mangle Houses were once a common feature of most towns and villages where customers could have their laundry pressed for a penny or two.
https://cornishstory.com/2022/10/23/the-mangle-house/#:~:tex...
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In the US, it is the laundromat, one of few places where women might meet for a good gossip these days.
a self-service laundry having coin-operated washers, driers, etc.; launderette.https://www.dictionary.com/browse/laundromat
Peer comment(s):
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Andrzej Mierzejewski
: https://cornishstory.com/2022/10/23/the-mangle-house/
1 day 7 hrs
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Dziękuję Andrzeju.
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10 hrs
Andrzej Ziomek
Poland
Poland
Native in Polish
Specializes in field
Poland
Jack of all trades Master of translation
Native in: Polish
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
8
[gossip] from the hairdresser's
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https://www.bookfrom.net/lucy-knott/page,16,572855-one_snowy...
'If I can avoid Mum being rude about Devon and tolerate her and the latest gossip from the hairdresser's today, I will be fine. [...]'
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https://www.collegesidekick.com/study-docs/6192275
'[...] Cynthia told Andi about her hairdresser's gossip that Bob was having an affair with Damion [...]'
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https://www.bookfrom.net/lucy-knott/page,16,572855-one_snowy...
'If I can avoid Mum being rude about Devon and tolerate her and the latest gossip from the hairdresser's today, I will be fine. [...]'
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Note added at 10 hrs (2024-05-05 07:47:34 GMT)
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https://www.collegesidekick.com/study-docs/6192275
'[...] Cynthia told Andi about her hairdresser's gossip that Bob was having an affair with Damion [...]'
Discussion
In the UK, self-service laundry facilities are called launderettes. It was in May 1949 when the first coin-operated launderette opened in the UK, at 184 Queensway, London. Over the following decades, more launderettes opened across the country, while ownership of household washing machines also grew.
https://www.love2laundry.com/blog/what-is-a-self-service-lau...
Koniec zabawy w Szerloka Holmsa na dzień dzisiejszy. ;-)
Ta fotografia https://i.etsystatic.com/47527374/r/il/8a15c0/5840573300/il_...
kojarzy mi się z amerykańskimi reklamami z lat 50 i 60 (krój spódnic i spodni), ale zegar ścienny z cyfrowym wyświetlaczem - to chyba nie wcześniej niż późne lata 1970.
A pani z prawej strony chyba brakuje podeszwy przy lewym bucie... ;-)
Anglosaski odpowiednik: https://www.alamy.com/antiquity-historical-german-clothes-wr...
"heard it over the backyard fence",
lub "overheard it at the fence", .... etc.
Djinn - Google Books Result
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https://books.google.com › books
Tofik Dibi · 2021 · Biography & Autobiography
... gossip heard at the market or the drugstore is exchanged. They don't spare themselves at all. If one of their sons has been spotted high or drunk, or both ...
"Back-fence gossip" wygląda też obiecująco, choć będzie kłopot z umieszczeniem w zdaniu; "from the night janitor, or from his own wife, who...' (?) "who heard it in back-fence gossips'? Bo to kulawo brzmi :/