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Apr 23, 2015 06:48
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Portuguese term

Cozinheiro de 1ª

Portuguese to English Other Food & Drink Chefs
'Foi chefe de cozinha no Restaurante Tsuru da Quinta do Lago e cozinheiro de 1ª no Restaurante Bica do Sapato.'

There isn't much context here. Does anyone know what a 'Cozinheiro de 1ª' is?

Thanks in advance for your help!
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Head chef
5 1st commis chef
4 +1 chef de partie / station chef / line cook
4 +1 first-rate or top-rate chef
4 Top chef
3 +1 world-class chef

Discussion

Paulinho Fonseca Apr 23, 2015:
I agree with Muriel, Arthur and Gabriel. It's related to the level of service and not to the role name/description itself. :)
Tania Pires (asker) Apr 23, 2015:
@ Everyone Thank you but I had already closed this question a long time ago because, thanks to Ana's help (and many ads online), I found the English equivalent 'chef de partie', as Beatriz also put it on her latest answer. So, thank you anyway, but this question has been closed for several hours.
gninolps (X) Apr 23, 2015:
@Lázaro Não tinha visto que era PT-PT, nem a tabela salarial da Ana, que você não colocou na sua resposta. Nesse caso, eu não saberia o correspondente em inglês.

Aliás, vocês sabem o que é esse "primeira"? Primeira ordem? Primeira linha?
Lázaro Borges Apr 23, 2015:
There is now way it is referring to the qualities or excellence of the cook, since the first sentence refer to his position in the cooking line of the first restaurant (Tsuru da Quinta do Lago), therefore, the second sentence also refers to his position in the second one (Bica do Sapato).
gninolps (X) Apr 23, 2015:
PT-PT ou PT-BR, aliás? Se for PT-BR, "de primeira" é uma forma reduzida da expressão "de primeira categoria", que significa mesmo "de excelência", "first-class".
Arthur Dias Apr 23, 2015:
I agree with Muriel I also think it's a hyperbole, and would use "first-class chef"
Lázaro Borges Apr 23, 2015:
Eu iria com a sugestão da Ana Vozone, e usaria 1st Commis.
Muriel Vasconcellos Apr 23, 2015:
My interpretation I don't think it's a title, like 'chef de cuisine' or 'sous-chef'. I think it's hyperbole, as in 'first-class chef' or 'top-rated chef'.
Tania Pires (asker) Apr 23, 2015:
Ajuda Obrigada!
Ana Vozone Apr 23, 2015:
Não sei se ajuda Imagens de organigramas
https://www.google.pt/search?q=kitchen hierarchy&espv=2&biw=...

E uma tabela salarial, onde se vê o grau que ocupa a profissão de "cozinheiro de 1.ª"
http://www.sindhotelarianorte.com/e107_files/downloads/comho...
Tania Pires (asker) Apr 23, 2015:
Bom dia Ana Não há outras categorias. É o anúncio de um festival e estão a falar um pouco do chefe de cozinha desse festival: cursos que tirou e onde trabalhou. Obrigada!
Ana Vozone Apr 23, 2015:
Tânia Bom dia, podia sff dizer a categoria de outros profissionais na mesma cozinha ou, basicamente, mais contexto?

Proposed translations

+1
4 hrs

Head chef

Head chef
Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : I think this is too specific. See discussion.
5 hrs
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4 hrs

Top chef

Sugestão
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6 hrs

1st commis chef

This term refers to someone in a specific position in the cooking line.
Example sentence:

The sous-chef passed the order to the 1st commis.

Reference:

https://www.google.pt/search?q=kitchen+hierarchy&espv=2&biw=1217&bih=629&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=0pc4VfC4D6bC7gaMyIHACA&ved=0CDQQ

https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/theRitz5/displayjob.aspx?jobid=258

Peer comment(s):
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : I think this is too specific. See discussion.
3 hrs
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+1
6 hrs

chef de partie / station chef / line cook

Há vários anúncios de trabalho em Portugal procurando "cozinheiros de 1a". Isso se refere a uma categoria específica.



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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-04-23 13:51:49 GMT)
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ver também
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49365100/Hierarquia-na-Cozinha#scr...
Reference:

http://www.clubmedjobs.pt/oferta-de-trabalho/cozinha/cozinheiro-de-1a-chefe-de-partie-mf

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22cozinheiro+de+1%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Peer comment(s):
agree T o b i a s : 1st line cook e.g. http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/fbh/4972327735.html Although perhaps 'chef de partie' more appropriate for Europe.
2 hrs
thanks!
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : I think this is too specific. It simply means that he's a first-rate chef.
2 hrs
Hi Muriel, did you take a look at the scribd document and job posts? It seems quite common as a specific position in Portugal (although not in Brazil).
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+1
9 hrs

first-rate or top-rate chef

I don't think it's a job description. As many have pointed out, it simply means that he's the best. I hope you reconsider your decision.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2015-04-23 16:16:38 GMT)
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Or first-class chef.
Peer comment(s):
agree vertebem : Of course it's not a job description
3 hrs
Thanks, vertebem!
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+1
12 hrs

world-class chef

sug.
Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : That works, too.
3 hrs
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