Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
Zeytinyağlı
English translation:
zeytinyagli
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Jun 20, 2008 20:12
15 yrs ago
Turkish term
Zeytinyağlı
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Food & Drink
Cuisine
Bu genel bir yemek grubu adı. Maalesef doğru dürüst bir karşılık bulamadım. Acaba batı kültürlerinde benzeri var mıdır tercümelerde kullanabileceğim?
This is a group of dishes cooked with Olive Oil or Liquid Oil in Turkish cuisine. Unfortunately, I cannot find corresponding term for this type of dishes. Is there any similar group / generic name for food cooked with olive oil / liquid oil?
This is a group of dishes cooked with Olive Oil or Liquid Oil in Turkish cuisine. Unfortunately, I cannot find corresponding term for this type of dishes. Is there any similar group / generic name for food cooked with olive oil / liquid oil?
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zeytinyagli
I don't see why you must "translate" a traditional dish.
I would use it as it is, and then would may be explain in parenthesis as Cagdas did.
This is purely my opinion though...
I would use it as it is, and then would may be explain in parenthesis as Cagdas did.
This is purely my opinion though...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Selcuk Akyuz
35 mins
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Tesekkurler.
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Özden Arıkan
: bence de en iyi yaklaşım bu. sıvı yağla pişirilen, içine et koyulmayan, soğuk yenen ve ana yemek olmayan sebze yemekleri olduğu ilaveten açıklanabilir, ama çevirince, "zeytinyağıyla hazırlanan her türlü yiyecek" gibi anlaşılma riski var
1 day 11 hrs
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Teşekkür ederim.
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Mehmet Hascan
: The zeytinyagli dishes are made from the seasonal vegetable - http://acluster.newsvine.com/_news/2007/02/19/575904-origins...
2 days 12 hrs
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Teşekkürler.
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much. However, I shall use Mr. Karatas' term for explanation in paranthesis. Regards and Cheers."
+3
16 mins
1 hr
antipasta
This one is hard to translate since Turkish cuisine is unique to its dishes. For foreigners, term "antipasta" is being widely used and they are more familiar with this Italian term that could be subsititued for "zeytinyagli".
Best wishes on your translation.
Best wishes on your translation.
Peer comment(s):
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Nagme Yazgin
: No. Not all `antipasta` are zeytinyagli. Antipasti (plural: Antipasta) is "meze".
50 mins
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2 hrs
Turkish term (edited):
zeytinyağlılar
meatless dishes cooked in olive oil
Girit kökenli olduğumuz için hassasım herhalde bu konuda. Bence olive oil dishes veya dishes cooked in/with olive oil bu ifadeyi karşılamaz hatta yanılgıya sebep olur. Zira et içermemeleri ayırt edici özellikleri.
Keşke Yunancasını arıyor olsaydınız: Ladera imiş, ne mutlu bana ki bunu da öğrenmiş oldum.
http://www.meditermania.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&t...
"This is a traditional, greek family dish. It is very easy to prepare once you remember to soak the beans overnight. The particular kind of beans is essential to the recipe. They are also called Elephant Beans. You can cook this dish a couple of days in advance. It actually improves after one or two days, like all Ladera, meaning ***meatless dishes cooked in olive oil***."
Başka bir kaynakta da meatless olive oil dishes diye kullanılmış ama bunu da söz dizimi açısından beğenmedim.
TURKISH CUISINE
For this reason food is cooked for the day only. Food is never thrown out; even stale bread is oven-dried for use as rusk. At the ***meatless olive oil dishes***, ...
www.turkish-cuisine.org/english/pages.php?ParentID=3&FirstL...
Keşke Yunancasını arıyor olsaydınız: Ladera imiş, ne mutlu bana ki bunu da öğrenmiş oldum.
http://www.meditermania.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&t...
"This is a traditional, greek family dish. It is very easy to prepare once you remember to soak the beans overnight. The particular kind of beans is essential to the recipe. They are also called Elephant Beans. You can cook this dish a couple of days in advance. It actually improves after one or two days, like all Ladera, meaning ***meatless dishes cooked in olive oil***."
Başka bir kaynakta da meatless olive oil dishes diye kullanılmış ama bunu da söz dizimi açısından beğenmedim.
TURKISH CUISINE
For this reason food is cooked for the day only. Food is never thrown out; even stale bread is oven-dried for use as rusk. At the ***meatless olive oil dishes***, ...
www.turkish-cuisine.org/english/pages.php?ParentID=3&FirstL...
Note from asker:
Teşekkürler. Zaten metin de Bozcaada mutfağı ile ilgili. Ancak Nağme Yazgın'ın açıklamasını kabul edip sizinkini parentez içerisinde kullanacağım. |
2 days 1 hr
vegetable dish cooked with olive oil
Elimdeki "Turkish - The Rough Guide"da böyle denmiş.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LPjEOI4UL._SL500_BO2...
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2008-06-23 11:17:46 GMT) Post-grading
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Sometimes meat can be added to a vegetable dish but vegetable dishes cooked with olive oil zeytinyaglilar are almost always conceived to be strictly vegetarian.
http://www.lyciayachting.com/content/view/35/68/1/3/
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2008-06-23 11:20:50 GMT) Post-grading
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The zeytinyagli dishes are made from the seasonal vegetable and are delicious eaten as a main dish with plenty of wonderful Turkish bread.
http://acluster.newsvine.com/_news/2007/02/19/575904-origins...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LPjEOI4UL._SL500_BO2...
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2008-06-23 11:17:46 GMT) Post-grading
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Sometimes meat can be added to a vegetable dish but vegetable dishes cooked with olive oil zeytinyaglilar are almost always conceived to be strictly vegetarian.
http://www.lyciayachting.com/content/view/35/68/1/3/
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2008-06-23 11:20:50 GMT) Post-grading
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The zeytinyagli dishes are made from the seasonal vegetable and are delicious eaten as a main dish with plenty of wonderful Turkish bread.
http://acluster.newsvine.com/_news/2007/02/19/575904-origins...
126 days
vegeterian food
This may yield the same sense.
Discussion
1) Zeytinyağlı terimi kullanılmasına rağmen, kişisel deneyimimde zeytinyağlılar aslında başka sıvı yağlarla pişiriliyor. Dolayısıyla orijinali her ne kadar tercüme tekniği açısından daha doğru olsada bazı tereddütlerim var.
2) Aslında Çağdaş Karataş arkadaşımızın tercümesi en azından literal anlamda en doğru olanı. Ancak onun da söz dizimi biraz tuhaf. Ancak biraz daha bekleyip, sonra seçeceğim.