інженерні вишукування

English translation: Engineering survey

01:38 Sep 30, 2002
Ukrainian to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering
Ukrainian term or phrase: інженерні вишукування
I am translating a transcript into English. I wonder if there is an equivalent in English.

I will greatly appreciate any help.

Svetlana
Svetlana Ball
Local time: 05:52
English translation:Engineering survey
Explanation:
This is the correct term. I was involved in these activities for many years, and it is in the Trilingual Geotechnical Dictionary (En-Ru-Uk) that I compiled (with co-authors) and published in 1992 in Kiev.

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to V.Dubisskiy (from http://www.josseybass.com/cda/product/0,,0471179876,00.html)...

It presents the fundamentals of site engineering —surveying and mapping, drainage, slope stabilization, and basic structures —and explains in detail the solutions to a wide variety of problems, including:

Interpretation of deed descriptions
Dimensioning buildings and sites when angles are other than right angles
Computing areas for irregular plots
Dimensioning and laying out circular curves for driveways and buildings
And much more.


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Note added at 2002-09-30 19:27:53 (GMT)
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to Ludwig Chekhovtsov:

1. Звичайно, вишукування=изыскания; я свого часу сам працював у такому «Відділі вишукувань»

2. БАРС – звичайно, великий словник, але це не означає, що він позбавлений помилок. Зокрема, тут (у Штатах) ніхто так не каже про вишукування – investigations, тільки survey. Перше слово звичайно стосується або слідства, або науки.
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Vadim Khazin
Local time: 05:52
Grading comment
Vadim,

Thank you for your comments. I thought it had to involve surveying, but I was not sure how to put it right.

Svetlana
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Summary of answers provided
5 +3"engineering" or "site engineering"
Vladimir Dubisskiy
5 +1engineering investigations
Ludwig Chekhovtsov
4 +1engineering research and survey<ing>
marfus
5Engineering survey
Vadim Khazin


  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
engineering research and survey<ing>


Explanation:
that's my best guess

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Note added at 2002-09-30 01:55:19 (GMT)
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OR ~ surveying

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Note added at 2002-09-30 05:29:23 (GMT)
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refs to prove Engineering Research covers site survey activities [plenty of sources]:

Rehabilitation Engineering Research is undertaken within the Engineering Design Centre(EDC) of the Department of Engineering and in collaboration ...
rehab-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/

Engineering Research Group ... specialized in the following areas: AA) Site survey ...
energy.sourceguides.com/businesses/byB/serv/ engineer/byP/cathodic/cathodic.shtml

Prepared by the Civil Engineering Research ... Sustainable Design
includes ... A complete site survey and soils report ...
www.governmentsales.com/GD-ArmyETL1110-3-491.htm

a major facility for conducting wind engineering research ... The on-site survey of building damage can ...
www.pic.bee.qut.edu.au/research/cyclone_australia/ aResearch%20and%20Development.htm

marfus
United States
Local time: 05:52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Vera Fluhr (X): I agree with Survey, But I disagree with Research! engineering research means another type of activity, and I think that in Ukrainian it will be not "вишукування"
3 hrs
  -> Russian term "Инженерные изыскания" includes 'engineering research/surveying'. Check dictionaries

agree  AndreiG: with engineering survey
5 hrs
  -> Thank you
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
engineering investigations


Explanation:
Or: engineering survey


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Engineering Investigations
... HSEC provide a number of engineering investigations services to a wide range of industries from mining to food processing. ...
www.hsec.co.uk/enginv/home.asp

CONSULTING ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS - engineering investigations ...
... FORENSIC ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING INVESTIGATIONS OVER 400 CASES HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED THESE INVESTIGATIONS ...
www.rencee.com/engineering_investigations.htm

NAVAIR Blanket Purchase Agreement for Engineering Investigations
... Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) Blanket Purchase Agreement (BPA) for Engineering Investigations. ARINC provides engineering investigation ...
www.arinc.com/doing_business/contract_vehicles/ navair.html -

Engineering investigations
Engineering investigations, ... design. The following geophysical methods are mostly used in engineering investigations: Ground penetrating ...
www.geofyzika.com/services/eng_inv.htm

THE IMPORTANCE OF THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING INVESTIGATIONS IN ...
Paper No. 155-15. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING INVESTIGATIONS
IN EFFECTIVELY MANAGING A GROUND WATER RESOURCE. ROBERTS ...
gsa.confex.com/gsa/2002AM/finalprogram/ abstract_44155.htm -

Aerostructures - Service Catalog
... Engineering Investigations. Structural Integrity Management,
Fatigue Evaluations, Damage Tolerance Analysis, ...
www.aerostructures.com.au/business/ services/enginvestigations.h


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Заглянемо, будь ласка в словники:

1. По-перше, в Російсько-українському словнику наукової термінології (Математика, Фізика, Техніка, Наука про землю та космос), Київ, Наукова думка, 1998, знаходимо:

изыскивать, изыскать (геол., гидр., техн.) - вишукувати и шукати, вишукати

тобто \"вишукування\" є не що інше, як \"изыскания\".

2. По-друге, в БАРПС, Москва, \"Русский язык\", 1991, маємо:

investigations - изыскания,

більш того:
engineering investigations - инженерные изыскания,

а також:
field investigations - полевые изыскания,
site investigations - геодезические и геологические изыскания на стройплощадке,
soil investigations - почвенно-геологические изыскания

То чому це \"no investigations here\" я Вас питаю?

Ludwig Chekhovtsov
Local time: 05:52
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in pair: 56

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Vera Fluhr (X): Certainly! Your both variants are good, because they are both equivalent to the Russian term "Инженерные изыскания". Please note that "survey" can be also used in plural, i.e.: engineering surveyS
3 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, Vera!

neutral  Vadim Khazin: Sorry, no investigations here
13 hrs
  -> І я вибачаюсь, але ж з Вами не згоден - див. вище:
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
"engineering" or "site engineering"


Explanation:
i strongly believe it came from rus 'изыскания'
инженерные изыскания = site engineering
from: Ru-En Dict of Scientific and Technical Usage by Kuznetsov

Vladimir Dubisskiy
United States
Local time: 04:52
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in pair: 239

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexandra Tussing
1 min

agree  Alexandre Khalimov: no ivestigations here
27 mins

agree  marfus: i totally agree 'ivestigations' is a wrong term; but: Ru-En Polytec.Dict. gives 'engineering research/survey' for "инженерные изыскания"
3 hrs

agree  mk_lab
6 hrs

disagree  Vadim Khazin: Site Investigation has a much broader scope than needed here:
13 hrs
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Engineering survey


Explanation:
This is the correct term. I was involved in these activities for many years, and it is in the Trilingual Geotechnical Dictionary (En-Ru-Uk) that I compiled (with co-authors) and published in 1992 in Kiev.

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Note added at 2002-09-30 15:11:14 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

to V.Dubisskiy (from http://www.josseybass.com/cda/product/0,,0471179876,00.html)...

It presents the fundamentals of site engineering —surveying and mapping, drainage, slope stabilization, and basic structures —and explains in detail the solutions to a wide variety of problems, including:

Interpretation of deed descriptions
Dimensioning buildings and sites when angles are other than right angles
Computing areas for irregular plots
Dimensioning and laying out circular curves for driveways and buildings
And much more.


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Note added at 2002-09-30 19:27:53 (GMT)
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to Ludwig Chekhovtsov:

1. Звичайно, вишукування=изыскания; я свого часу сам працював у такому «Відділі вишукувань»

2. БАРС – звичайно, великий словник, але це не означає, що він позбавлений помилок. Зокрема, тут (у Штатах) ніхто так не каже про вишукування – investigations, тільки survey. Перше слово звичайно стосується або слідства, або науки.

Vadim Khazin
Local time: 05:52
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in pair: 96
Grading comment
Vadim,

Thank you for your comments. I thought it had to involve surveying, but I was not sure how to put it right.

Svetlana

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ludwig Chekhovtsov: У Штатах можей ні, а от у Британії, здається, да (див. моє перше веб-посилання). Та оскільки запитувач теж із США (я цього спочатку не знав), то Ви, мабуть таки, маєте рацію.
5 hrs
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