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nadegea
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ok for me.
If we have to book something, an Italian might be easier as they are used to large numbers, what about Ask or Donatello's or Zizzi. I'm not sure bars, pubs and cafes will take booking on a saturday afternoon, especially on bank holiday with lots of stags and hens. That's a shame we can't book a sunny afternoon in the park!


 
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Nadegea Jun 24, 2004

Your suggestion sounds very sensible to me

 
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Italian sounds good Jun 24, 2004

and there are certainly enough of to choose from in Brighton! I'll phone round the main contenders and see what they can do for us.

 
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Al Duomo, etc.. Jun 24, 2004

Al Duomo has private rooms... maybe we can book those???

 
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good idea Jun 24, 2004

I'll get on to them

 
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Al Duomo Jul 5, 2004

(one of Brighton's premier Italian restaurants, central location next to the Pavilion) does indeed have a function room big enough for us. There's a 3 course menu for £13.50 per person (menu choices to be made beforehand) which looks quite good. They do however want a £7.50 pp deposit upfront so we'd have to work out a way to do that. What are your views??

 
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My opinion Jul 5, 2004

If they want a deposit, how are you going to handle this? You cannot pay in advance for people that might not show up at all. So, just let's eat 'a la carte', and then it's their problem to handle 50 people.
And what comes to it: I might not be hungry, or I might be on a "salad-only" trip or whatever, and then I have to have 3 courses. Well...
I think it's better to schedule and plan as little as possible to keep it flexible.
May be you better go for a room fee and share it bet
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If they want a deposit, how are you going to handle this? You cannot pay in advance for people that might not show up at all. So, just let's eat 'a la carte', and then it's their problem to handle 50 people.
And what comes to it: I might not be hungry, or I might be on a "salad-only" trip or whatever, and then I have to have 3 courses. Well...
I think it's better to schedule and plan as little as possible to keep it flexible.
May be you better go for a room fee and share it between the participants really showing up.
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Supplementary note... Jul 5, 2004

Think American...
They have a restaurant and it's their business to sell food and stuff. Thus, they should offer what we need. And if there is a risk not to sell what is planned, it should be on their side, not on the client's...
This is what is called "service and customer orientation", but good old Europe still has a lot of problems thinking that easy and obvious way...


 
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Still think picnic's the way to go! Jul 5, 2004

For the very reasons Herbert has set out - it seems from the responses that lots of people want to come but may not be able to make a firm commitment (that's my position, btw). So, I hear what everyone's saying about not being able to rely on the weather but suppose we met centrally: we could picnic in the Pavilion Gardens, weather permitting and if it wasn't we could head off to a big pub or restaurant (Ha Has, King and Queen both big enough for 30 odd people); Al Duomo's got loads of tables so... See more
For the very reasons Herbert has set out - it seems from the responses that lots of people want to come but may not be able to make a firm commitment (that's my position, btw). So, I hear what everyone's saying about not being able to rely on the weather but suppose we met centrally: we could picnic in the Pavilion Gardens, weather permitting and if it wasn't we could head off to a big pub or restaurant (Ha Has, King and Queen both big enough for 30 odd people); Al Duomo's got loads of tables so I'm sure we could somehow manage.Collapse


 
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Saturday pm Pavilion Gardens Jul 5, 2004

I agree that the meeting point should be the Pavilion Gardens. We all live here so we cannot rely on the weather to make definite plans. However I believe we could meet in the gardens and have a picnic, if it rains we can then go to a pub like the King & Queen or one of the bars in the sea front. Maybe the organiser and 1 other person could near the time offer a mobile phone number to enable those who are late to check where the group is.

 
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It's difficult Jul 5, 2004

This was the problem I found last year Nicole, trying to organise the Powwow in Cambridge - finding somewhere willing to reserve a room for you with, no certainty on numbers, on a Summer Saturday afternoon in a tourist area. I was lucky enough to find a pub on the river that would, (probably because most people sat outside if it was fine or didn't come at all if it wasn't). They offered open sandwiches / baguettes with salad or single plates, all under £6.
Part of me says "stick to your
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This was the problem I found last year Nicole, trying to organise the Powwow in Cambridge - finding somewhere willing to reserve a room for you with, no certainty on numbers, on a Summer Saturday afternoon in a tourist area. I was lucky enough to find a pub on the river that would, (probably because most people sat outside if it was fine or didn't come at all if it wasn't). They offered open sandwiches / baguettes with salad or single plates, all under £6.
Part of me says "stick to your guns; you're the organiser" and the £13-50 does sound excellent value but, to be realistic, a compulsory three course lunch will probably deter too many people from coming.
I booked provisionally and confirmed likely numbers about 5 days beforehand after asking people to commit themselves a week before the event.
We had 39 people expressing an interest and 21 people actually attended, in case that helps.
A picnic sounds fun but for anyone hoping to discuss relevant issues it might not be the ideal circumstances (IMHO). I don't know Brighton well enough to offer concrete suggestions I'm afraid.
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Relevant issues Jul 5, 2004

Well, Russell makes a point, but... what is a relevant issue? As for me, the most relevant issue will be "putting faces to names" and making contacts for probable future collaboration. And this can be ideally made in a completely informal atmosphere by strolling from one group to another instead of sitting at a long table and having contact to the direct neighbours only.

To be honest... I would not travel from Germany to UK, paying a fortune for the Channel hop just to listen to so
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Well, Russell makes a point, but... what is a relevant issue? As for me, the most relevant issue will be "putting faces to names" and making contacts for probable future collaboration. And this can be ideally made in a completely informal atmosphere by strolling from one group to another instead of sitting at a long table and having contact to the direct neighbours only.

To be honest... I would not travel from Germany to UK, paying a fortune for the Channel hop just to listen to some "serious" speakers holding boring speeches about the British tax system or how great CAT tool XY performs...
Information of this kind can be downloaded from the internet wherever you are.
For me, it's all about people. The more I can talk to the better.
To make a long story short...
The more informal and flexible the gathering is, the more worth it will be.

I find Helena's point very useful to "publish" a mobile phone number for those coming late.
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Informal & flexible Jul 5, 2004

Agree with Herbert re: informality and flexibility to mix and mingle.
But I'm sure whatever you decide on will work.
The key is to have an initial meeting point, with mobile contact numbers for late arrivers etc.
You could even start with a sit down lunch somewhere, which could evolve into an ice-cream on the pier, which could evolve into a few pints ...
And the hard-core socialisers can always burn the midnight oil...
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Agree with Herbert re: informality and flexibility to mix and mingle.
But I'm sure whatever you decide on will work.
The key is to have an initial meeting point, with mobile contact numbers for late arrivers etc.
You could even start with a sit down lunch somewhere, which could evolve into an ice-cream on the pier, which could evolve into a few pints ...
And the hard-core socialisers can always burn the midnight oil
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@Jerrie Jul 5, 2004

Glad YOU mentioned the hard-core stuff. Now you are the bad girl for a change...
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But anyway... to my experience with several PowWows now, the hard-corers have always been those people who tend to colaborate afterwards...
It's our Germanic and Hun heritage: Get drunk togehter today, work together or kill each other tomorrow...


 
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ideas Jul 5, 2004

in relation to last year's meeting in Cambridge; this was particularly good because everyone could sit around one table; name labels were arranged, and everyone met everyone. Paying a deposit up-front sounds unworkable to me.
Accessibility: close to the station is preferable I think. Why not have a presentation on something or other?


 
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