Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Sicherheitspolizeiliche Ermittlungsmaßnahmen

English translation:

investigation by the security police

Added to glossary by NickWatson
Apr 25, 2002 20:34
22 yrs ago
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German term

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Apr 26, 2002:
the entire paragraph Mehrfach wurde im vergangenen Jahr das Spannungsverh�ltnis von Berichterstattungsfreiheit und starfrechtlichem Geheimnisschutz thematisiert. Sicherheitspolizeiliche Ermittlungsma�nahmen (�Lauschangriff�), die zur Bek�mpfung von organisierter Kriminalit�t und Terrorismus beschlossen wurden, haben nach Ansicht des Verbandes �sterreichischer Zeitungen die Pressefreiheit und das Redaktionsgeheimnis gef�hrdet; durch eine Informationskampagne konnte der V�Z erreichen, dass demn�chst eine Gesetzes�nderung erfolgen wird, wonach eine Telefon�berwachung nur nach ausdr�cklicher Zustimmung eines Rechtsschutzbeauftragten m�glich ist und auch Mobiltelefone von Journalisten unter diesen besonderen Schutz fallen.
Endre Both Apr 26, 2002:
What do these Ma�nahmen refer to, in terms of time, place, etc.?

Proposed translations

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investigation by the security police

Might work if you wish to include "sicherheitspolizeilich"

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Example:
http://www.rferl.org/watchlist/2000/01/2-130100.html
Peer comment(s):

agree Beate Lutzebaeck : I give up - if Germany still uses the term Sicherheitspolizei, you might as well use security police in English.
50 mins
agree Jan Liebelt : I hate to say it - because "security police" sounds stilted - but I think Darien is right.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Georg, I was inclined to opt for Jan's more simple translation but then again it is always better to be on the safe side. Thanks to everyone else too for their contributions. "
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1 min

Police investigation

Why make it more complicated than it is?
Peer comment(s):

disagree S. GARMSEN : I think that at least the "security" aspect should be mentioned, as it's not necessarily the same thing. See my suggestion below.
5 mins
What are the police for, if not to ensure security?
disagree wrtransco : then "polizeiliche" would have been enough in German too, right?
16 mins
German often has words we consider "superfluous" in German, but having seen teh entire paragraph, I accept that "police investigations" is incorrect for the context.
agree Jeannie Graham : security police investigation perhaps
1 hr
disagree Kathleen : In the DDR, the "Stasi" was NOT the same as the "Polizei!!
10 hrs
Granted.
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9 mins

Police security investigation measures

Yeah, it seems quite odd, but that's what it is, if you want to go for the more complicated way.

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\"Police security investigative measures\" probably sound better
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9 mins

security and police investigations/investigative measures

investigations or investigative measures, depending on the context.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Jan Liebelt : I'm sorry, but that sounds naff, how ever many years you've had in the business.
1 min
What on earth does "naff" mean?! (British slang?)
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Just an explanation:

It is true, the is a big difference between Polizei and Sicherheitspolizei (Eurodicautom translates Sicherheitspolizeigesetz as Law on the Security Police). In Germany, the Sicherheitspolizei is, among other things, responsible for the protection of constituional bodies (verfassungsmäßige Einrichtungen) and subjects of international law (Vertreter von Völkerrechtssubjekten).

Unfortunately, the term Sicherheitspolizei and its translation "security police" gained "notoriety" during the Nazi regime (see German/English glossary below) - this is why I'm not too keen on Georg's (otherwise correct) suggestion. I'll have a think and see whether I can come up with s.th. less "loaded".
Peer comment(s):

agree Kathleen
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2 hrs

Investigative powers of the security police

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3 hrs

investigative techniques (or measures or steps) used by

(the) security police.
Depending upon context, I might want to express it in this way.
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Investigative methods/techniques used by the security police

I lived near Leipzig (Sachsen) for almost 10 years. The methods AND techniques of the "Stasi" were ledgendary among my colleagues.
Peer comment(s):

agree jerrie : methods is good
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