Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
siendo infructuoso debido a
English translation:
said events (efforts) were unsuccessful because of
Added to glossary by
Yvonne Becker
Dec 18, 2009 01:39
14 yrs ago
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Native in: Spanish (Variant: Venezuelan)
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siendo infructuoso debido a
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Esto aparece en una autorización de viaje para un menor en Venezuela. He estructurado el documento en una serie de frases que comienzan con "whereas" para hacer más sencilla su comprensión en inglés. Es por ello que para traducir esta frase estoy buscando un sustantivo para reemplazar los signos de interrogación que coloco abajo:
"...visto el número de veces en la cual este Tribunal fijó diferentes oportunidades con la finalidad de que las partes pudieran llegar a un acuerdo en la presente solicitud, siendo infructuoso debido a la incomparecencia de estas a las audiencias..."
Hasta ahora, he colocado:
"whereas this Court set several dates for the parties to reach an agreement regarding this request; whereas said **???** were unsuccessful, due to the failure of the parties to appear at the hearings..."
Muchas gracias por su ayuda.
"...visto el número de veces en la cual este Tribunal fijó diferentes oportunidades con la finalidad de que las partes pudieran llegar a un acuerdo en la presente solicitud, siendo infructuoso debido a la incomparecencia de estas a las audiencias..."
Hasta ahora, he colocado:
"whereas this Court set several dates for the parties to reach an agreement regarding this request; whereas said **???** were unsuccessful, due to the failure of the parties to appear at the hearings..."
Muchas gracias por su ayuda.
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+5
4 mins
Silvia Brandon-Pérez
United States
United States
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&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Precise and on time; lawyer/writer.
Native in: English 
, Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to English, and 7 more.
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217
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said events (efforts) were unsuccessful because of the failure
of the parties at the hearings...
O: said efforts by the Court were unsuccessful because of the failure
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-12-18 15:39:40 GMT)
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Repito lo que he dicho arriba; esto no tiene que ver con masculinos/femeninos, el texto original sufre de 'legalitis', cosa muy común en los textos legales. Claramente, este tribunal ha intentado lograr un acuerdo entre las partes, y ha intentado citarlas para que comparezcan a llegar a dicho acuerdo. Estos intentos o esfuerzos del tribunal han sido infructuosos porque las partes no han comparecido, por lo tanto, el intento de llegar a un acuerdo a su vez ha sido infructuoso. Dado que no hubo reunión, no hay acuerdo. No podemos hablar de un acuerdo 'infructuoso' cuando ni siquiera se llegó a la mesa a firmar dicho acuerdo. Como diríamos en mi país, 'se cae de la mata.'
O: said efforts by the Court were unsuccessful because of the failure
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-12-18 15:39:40 GMT)
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Repito lo que he dicho arriba; esto no tiene que ver con masculinos/femeninos, el texto original sufre de 'legalitis', cosa muy común en los textos legales. Claramente, este tribunal ha intentado lograr un acuerdo entre las partes, y ha intentado citarlas para que comparezcan a llegar a dicho acuerdo. Estos intentos o esfuerzos del tribunal han sido infructuosos porque las partes no han comparecido, por lo tanto, el intento de llegar a un acuerdo a su vez ha sido infructuoso. Dado que no hubo reunión, no hay acuerdo. No podemos hablar de un acuerdo 'infructuoso' cuando ni siquiera se llegó a la mesa a firmar dicho acuerdo. Como diríamos en mi país, 'se cae de la mata.'
Peer comment(s):
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eski
: --whereas said efforts were unsuccessful... (I'd eliminate "events") Saludos! :)) eski
5 mins
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De acuerdo; prefiero 'efforts.' Mil gracias. :)
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Leonardo Lamarche
: agree. Also with eski comment.
35 mins
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Gracias de nuevo; yo estoy de acuerdo con eski y contigo :)
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Marzia Nicole Bucca
3 hrs
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Gracias, Marzia, y felices fiestas.
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Maria Mastruzzo
: agree
4 hrs
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Gracias, Maria, y felices fiestas.
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Richard Boulter
: 'Infructuoso' being masculine, it clearly refers to 'number (of efforts/attempts)', which translates better into English by making 'efforts/attempts' the subject.
7 hrs
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Thank you, Richard.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Mil gracias"
-1
4 mins
Daniel Frisano
Italy
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100% human translation, always
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48
attempts
en lugar de **???***
Peer comment(s):
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margaret caulfield
: Attempts at what? I don't see where "attempts" comes into it here!
5 hrs
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35 mins
Liliana Galiano
Argentina
Argentina
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Specializes in field
Argentina
Education and Economics specialist.
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36
said arrangements were unsuccessful...
Otra opción.
Peer comment(s):
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Jessica Noyes
1 hr
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Thanks!
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Emma Ratcliffe
: Felices Fiestas, Saludos! Emma
14 hrs
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Igualmente y gracias.
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8 hrs
Richard Boulter
United States
United States
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USA English; a decade of experience.
Native in: English
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Related KudoZ points
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95
...said dispositions being fruitless, due to ...
Additional possible wording. Such an arrangement made by means of a 'judicial finding' and a 'court order ' order can be termed 'dispositions' in U.S. legalese. The words suggested for 'infructuoso' are fine, and 'fruitless' is added as a very fluent expression of the concept; others for this could be 'in vain', 'unavailing', 'frustrated', 'rendered moot', etc.
10 hrs
Jenny Westwell
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Insightful, timely, accurate
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, English
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86
...all of which were unsuccessful due to...
A number of dates were set by the Court in an effort to reach an agreement regarding this request, all of which were unsuccessful due to the failure of the parties to appear at the hearings.
Another rewording which may help. I also liked Taña´s "non-appearance" for "incomparecencia". Saludos :)
Another rewording which may help. I also liked Taña´s "non-appearance" for "incomparecencia". Saludos :)
-4
3 hrs
having them being infructuous due to
word by word
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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2009-12-19 09:05:30 GMT)
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Well, grammatically, if it is incorrect, OK. Because I have no good knowledge of grammar. It is me or I!
'them' here is "oportunidades".
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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2009-12-19 09:05:30 GMT)
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Well, grammatically, if it is incorrect, OK. Because I have no good knowledge of grammar. It is me or I!
'them' here is "oportunidades".
Peer comment(s):
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Lisa McCarthy
: Not correct English 'having them being'
2 hrs
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margaret caulfield
: Sorry! Wrong grammar! "having them being" is incorrect.
22 hrs
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Rosa Paredes
: wrong grammar
2 days 51 mins
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Lydia De Jorge
: By your own admission, you have "no good knowledge of grammar". Perhaps you should refrain from answering outside of your language pair as you are clearly not helping the asker.
2 days 13 hrs
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