Feb 26, 2013 08:43
11 yrs ago
Czech term

pořádný

Czech to English Other Food & Drink
Jídelní lístek:

Big Burger - pořádný burger z hovězího masa doplněný zeleninou a dresingem
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 a large
4 +3 hefty
4 +2 decent
4 Maxi
4 substantial
3 proper
4 -1 juicy
3 a mighty
2 a biiig

Discussion

Scott Evan Andrews Feb 26, 2013:
nice discussion, my battery is at 14% so I can't react...but Hanna, I wanna sell burgers...it is the big burger already, you're right...but even then in American restaurants or perhaps whereever, big burger is still supported by some adjectival clincher that that's exactly what you want to order.
Barbora Tite (X) Feb 26, 2013:
I think Hanka can be more creative here, since the name of the burger (Big burger) already describes its size quite unambiguously (minus cultural differences).
Hannah Geiger (X) Feb 26, 2013:
Now that you have brought it up, Scott I dare to say that in Czech the word "pořádný" goes a bit further, that is why the menu did not put out an outright "velký" but a "good piece of", which may be translated in many ways, some of them not even mentioned here, such as sizeable (or sizable), big-appetite, etc. I hate doing menus, it is a pain, but I do notice that they tend to be quite creative. And if I already have a Big Burger, translated or not, why follow it up by "large". I simply feel that the "pořádný" here deserves our attention, be it decent, proper, substantial, hearty, or other, IMO.
If I may also mention, from my own observation, menus tend to be very individual, and it is quite possible that Hanka will be able to select one of the expressions here simply on the basis of how it fits within the rest of the crative set-up of the menu, because the owner always has a certain central idea in mind. What that is, we do not know.
Scott Evan Andrews Feb 26, 2013:
let's please get back to what I said..."a large" covers it by definition completely. I digress: there are around 3 quarters of a million restaurants in the US, can you imagine then the adjectival (marketing/please stop here?) options? I want you to eat in my restaurant and I want you to try my burger dammit...The needed adjective is like the difference between mauve and whatever colors are close thereto...(many men proudly don't know what mauve is, sounds like an aunt that comes over far too often)...) Putting it in Czech terms, it will be a Czech restaurant with x y z clients from wherever...juice it up and call it descent-sized, some will say why decent and not BIG? Call it biiiig? why not? Maxi? More a central European term but sure, that conveys the meaning too...If it were my restaurant, I'd not confuse, I'll leave that to the trendy American restaurants just begging for your car to stop...there a "hefty" burger, a "3-alarm burger" for the spicy kind indeed look up "ultimate burger"...OK, but the asker is trying to find an appropriate term for a restaurant in the CR. I hereby invoke the K.I.S.S. clause, because I want ALL of my seats occupied in full by hungry diners...

Proposed translations

+5
4 mins
Selected

a large

for this specific term, I'd go with something like this...this dips into the various terms on the marketer's pallet...
a. a large (hearty, good-sized)
b. a big beefy...
c. an authentic
d. (Brit.) a proper

BEEF HAMBURGER! (beef is redundant, or used to be! (sorry, just horsing around)

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-26 09:43:47 GMT)
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cultural note: I'd avoid using the word "huge" unless it's at least 350 g precooked weight, could be misleading and setting the diner up for disappointment...we in the USA have vastly differing impressions of what is huge in terms of portions, and you can often see the unfortunate results... tak dobrou chut'
Peer comment(s):

agree Stuart Hoskins : Scott the mane man gallops furlongs ahead
47 mins
:)
agree Zbyněk Táborský
1 hr
agree Sarka Rubkova
1 hr
agree Pavel Slama : yep, proper is that sort of off-the-peg adverty word for it in GB
3 hrs
agree Adam Homsi : I like that: keeping it short and simple, large or proper, depending whether GB or US
10 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Děkuji!"
6 mins

Maxi

V Mac Donalde používajú tento termín

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Note added at 7 min (2013-02-26 08:50:42 GMT)
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samozrejme, s výrazom max, maxi atď sa treba pohrať.
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+2
12 mins

decent

As a Czech, I would say this (or maybe even "proper").
Peer comment(s):

agree Hannah Geiger (X) : I do like this a lot, too.
1 hr
agree JanaGajdosova
1 day 5 hrs
Věděl jsem, že nejsem úplně marný. Díky.
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1 hr

proper

Očividně nejsem rodilý mluvčí angličtiny. Ještě mě napadlo 'regular', ale to záleží na dalších souvislostech. Teď vidím že 'proper' zmínil už Martin a Scott...
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-1
1 hr

juicy

...really makes me want to bite into it.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Adam Homsi : that would be more like šťavnatý
9 hrs
Well, obviously. But given the context, I would say that the main thing is to make it as attractive as possible for customers.
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+3
1 hr

hefty

The test? Four hefty pieces of beef, cut from the wing rib end of the sirloin, from cows of the same breed (Dexter – the Napoleon of the cow world), which had been slaughtered at the same age and roasted in the same way, were sampled by nine food lovers in relatively quick succession. The cuts in question had been aged for 23, 55, 79 and 98 days by the South East London super butcher, Nathan Mills.
http://www.rocketandsquash.com/vertical-steak-tasting-at-the...

Most recent review
“good hefty burgers
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g255111-d131508...


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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-26 10:06:06 GMT)
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I don't think that "pořádný" means "large" at all. with all due respect, perhaps only in the most ordinary sense.,

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-26 10:21:47 GMT)
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Menus tend to be quite creative, and since you have Big once already, I see no reason why put another variation of it, it is IMO redundant.
Peer comment(s):

agree Barbora Tite (X) : That is very nice.
14 mins
děkuji Barbora
agree Martin König : Like this one in return.
2 hrs
díky Martine
agree Adam Homsi
9 hrs
thank you
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3 hrs

a biiig

jen tak nahozeno
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5 hrs

substantial

Jinymi slovy solidni, poradny kus, ktery nasyti
Peer comment(s):

neutral Adam Homsi : substantial bruger doesn´t sound as good as a substantial piece of sth
5 hrs
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1 day 4 hrs

a mighty

One more suggestion.
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