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che partivano dallo squartamento in poi
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Pensavo alla luce che filtrava dalle finestre semichiuse di Roma, specialmente in estate, eccitando ogni tanto gli urli degli agenti della U.N.P.A, che gridavano: "Luce, Luce." A Berlino, a parte le pene comminate contro chi avesse lasciato trapelare anche un barlume dalle finestre, ed erano pene che partivano dallo squartamento in poi, v'era la paura reale dei bombardamenti che, in quel mese di ottobre, erano particolarmente temuti a séguito di una intensificazione delle attività dei bombardieri anglo-americani.
Molte Grazie,
Barbara
Pensavo alla luce che filtrava dalle finestre semichiuse di Roma, specialmente in estate, eccitando ogni tanto gli urli degli agenti della U.N.P.A, che gridavano: "Luce, Luce." A Berlino, a parte le pene comminate contro chi avesse lasciato trapelare anche un barlume dalle finestre, ed erano pene che partivano dallo squartamento in poi, v'era la paura reale dei bombardamenti che, in quel mese di ottobre, erano particolarmente temuti a séguito di una intensificazione delle attività dei bombardieri anglo-americani.
Molte Grazie,
Barbara
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Tom in London
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that began with quartering and moved on from there
horrible torture which traditionally consisted of tethering four horses to the four limbs of the body....
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Here's a description from Foucault's "Discipline and Punish":
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~felluga/punish.html
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(if you're squeamish, don't read this!)
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Note added at 7 mins (2014-01-27 15:51:15 GMT)
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Here's a description from Foucault's "Discipline and Punish":
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~felluga/punish.html
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(if you're squeamish, don't read this!)
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Isabelle Johnson
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80
dismemberment
I think quartering is too medieval in feel myself for WW2. Dismemberment is at least a little more general. E.g:
Dismemberment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DismembermentTraduci questa pagina
The execution of Túpac Amaru II, who was dismembered by four horses May 18, 1781. As late as in 1781, this gruesome punishment was meted out to the ...
History - Examples in fiction - See also - References
'Death By A Thousand Cuts' Photos From Late Qing Dynasty ...
www.chinasmack.com/.../slow-slicing-photos-fema...Traduci questa pagina
20/feb/2010 - Dismembered parts of the executed criminal are placed in a basket ... his chest and thighs sliced off during the dismemberment punishment in.
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of course I forgot the rest of the phrase. I think Tom's is rather good.
Dismemberment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DismembermentTraduci questa pagina
The execution of Túpac Amaru II, who was dismembered by four horses May 18, 1781. As late as in 1781, this gruesome punishment was meted out to the ...
History - Examples in fiction - See also - References
'Death By A Thousand Cuts' Photos From Late Qing Dynasty ...
www.chinasmack.com/.../slow-slicing-photos-fema...Traduci questa pagina
20/feb/2010 - Dismembered parts of the executed criminal are placed in a basket ... his chest and thighs sliced off during the dismemberment punishment in.
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of course I forgot the rest of the phrase. I think Tom's is rather good.
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Tom in London
: but "quartering" is the term used in the text. And "dismemberment" is less specific. I could dismember you in many ways, but there's only one way to quarter you (evil grin). If the text had said "smembramento" you'd be right. But it doesn't.
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I think that the Italian squartamenti is a more general term than the English quartering myself
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slaughtering, ripping
squartare can have a figurative sense here, as what the butcher does with the whole carcasses
Jack the Ripper is Jack lo Squartatore in Italian
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no, (see aside) I don't work in the field of slaughter!
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it must mean that such a minimal infringement had the most terrific consequences
Jack the Ripper is Jack lo Squartatore in Italian
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no, (see aside) I don't work in the field of slaughter!
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it must mean that such a minimal infringement had the most terrific consequences
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slaughtering, dismembering
I would definitely choose slaughtering or dismembering over quartering, which seems like an overparticularisation to me. Squartare has an almost exclusively figurative meaning nowadays, and I am sure this is no exception seeing as the story appears to be set during WWII.
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Mattia Trivellone
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[...] the lightest of which was disembowelment [...]
The parts about Berlin, bombardments and the UNPA (Unione Nazionale Protezione Antiaerea, part of the Italian military at the time) make me sure we're talking about World War II. They're describing what would be done in Berlin to people who wouldn't shut off the lights in their homes, thus drawing attention from bomber planes. I'd write something like:
"In Berlin, in addition the punishments that were delivered to those who didn't shut their lights off, the lightest of which was disembowelment, there was the real threat of [...]"
"In Berlin, in addition the punishments that were delivered to those who didn't shut their lights off, the lightest of which was disembowelment, there was the real threat of [...]"
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