Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Arabic term or phrase:
ع
English translation:
For/
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Ahmed Ghaly (X)
Jan 27, 2014 19:15
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Hi,
At the end of a letter it is signed and then says
ع / المدير العام
I'm guessing it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", but not sure.
Thank you for any help.
At the end of a letter it is signed and then says
ع / المدير العام
I'm guessing it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", but not sure.
Thank you for any help.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | For/ |
Ahmed Ghaly (X)
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| 5 | p.p. (per procurationem) |
Meriem Bouda
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| 4 +1 | acting / on behalf of |
hassan zekry
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Mar 9, 2014 20:53: Ahmed Ghaly (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/693332">Andrew Cavell's</a> old entry - "ع"" to ""For/""
Proposed translations
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For/
Based on my vast experience in translating letters and contracts, i found that the preposition "For" is widely used in such cases.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-01-27 21:31:30 GMT)
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Mr. Andrew said that this letter came at the end of the letter and after that came the signature.
ع / المدير العام
For sure, it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", and it is used to be shortened into "For/ followed by the Title" and then comes the signature
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Note added at 19 hrs (2014-01-28 14:15:45 GMT)
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even the expression "عناية السيد" is translated into kind attention. It is usually shortened into "K/A"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-01-27 21:31:30 GMT)
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Mr. Andrew said that this letter came at the end of the letter and after that came the signature.
ع / المدير العام
For sure, it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", and it is used to be shortened into "For/ followed by the Title" and then comes the signature
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Note added at 19 hrs (2014-01-28 14:15:45 GMT)
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even the expression "عناية السيد" is translated into kind attention. It is usually shortened into "K/A"
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Comment: "Thank you everyone.
I very much like the pp answer too, but I believe the pp is usually handwritten by the signatory, whereas the ع here is printed. There is also the confusion that technically the pp should go in front of the person signing, not the signed-for person signed for - although many offices put it in front of the signed-for person.
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p.p. (per procurationem)
A common usage of per procurationem occurs in business letters, which are often signed on behalf of another person. For example, given a secretary authorized to sign a letter on behalf of the president of a company, the signature takes the form:
p.p. Secretary's Signature
President's Name
p.p. Secretary's Signature
President's Name
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Saleh Dardeer
: Nice// Had I had multiple agrees, I would have posted all of them for this wonderful and supported answer with references. It gives the native word. I wish this will be the selected answer to enter this term into the glossary and benefit colleagues
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Thank you very much that is very nice of you :)
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Ahmed Ghaly (X)
: I have translated an agreement today from English into Arabic ended by following phrase "for and on behalf of" then comes the signature. That is why I am sure that "For" is very common in such cases, but i have never encountered p.p. be4 during my career
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Hi Ahmed, I am sorry but I am 100% sure of this one. I live and work in the UK. I had my own contract signed by the PA on behalf of the general manager. It was definitely p.p. not for
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acting / on behalf of
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Note added at 12 hrs (2014-01-28 08:05:00 GMT)
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(حسب معلوماتي، يُستخدم هذا الحرف اختصاراً لكلمة (عنه
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Note added at 12 hrs (2014-01-28 08:05:00 GMT)
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(حسب معلوماتي، يُستخدم هذا الحرف اختصاراً لكلمة (عنه
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