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بالتضامن والتكافل
تكتلات عنصرية
May 29, 2016 20:14
7 yrs ago
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Arabic term

الرسوم على وجه الحكاية

Arabic to English Law/Patents Law (general)
من المقرر فقها وقضاء أن التقييد الوارد في الرسوم على وجه الحكاية لا يترتب عنه حكم
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 for the sake of argument
4 hearsay evidences

Discussion

Awad Balaish May 29, 2016:
I mean are you sure the text is correct. I feel e.g the word (جكاية) is an odd word and the whole text is not a legal one as it should be.
Alessandro Mannara (asker) May 29, 2016:
What do you mean Awad?
Awad Balaish May 29, 2016:
Alessandro Mannara
Will you please make sure of what you have posted with regard to the Arabic vocabulary.

Proposed translations

+2
48 mins
Arabic term (edited): على وجه الحكاية
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for the sake of argument

I looked at a lot of examples of this phrase in Arabic texts, minus الرسوم, which is part of the previous phrase. I found that it is used in a similar way as على وجه التمثيل .

I believe that it is used here to mean "hypothetically" or "theoretically" in the sense of "just for the sake of an example" or "if I were to say, for example..."etc. If you look at examples of in context you will see what I mean. I am providing a link with one example.

Because this seems to be related to a court ruling, this phrase reminds me of the Latin legal term "Arguendo," which is used by an attorney to examine an argument in theory without admitting that it is true.

This is my interpretation.

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Note added at 49 mins (2016-05-29 21:04:22 GMT)
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I apologize: "look at examples of **THIS PHRASE in context"
Reference:

https://books.google.com/books?id=x0VHCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT95&lpg=PT95&dq=%22%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89+%D9%88%D8%AC%D9%87+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%83%D8%A7%D

http://dictionary.law.com/default.aspx?selected=2431

Peer comment(s):
agree Randa Farhat : Literally, it is "by way of relating/recounting"- means if A related that B said it costs a million, it doesn't mean that A said it costs a million, as he was only relating. على وجه الحكاية أي حكى لنا أو نقل لنا // How about 'hearsay'?//Right! Thanks.
27 mins
Thank you for your agreement. That is a great way of describing it. // I think hearsay is too specific a term for the context https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hearsay
agree Liliane Hatem : I have found the same meaningعلى وجه التمثيل
6 hrs
Thank you!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
9 hrs

hearsay evidences

hearsay evidences,

It is legally and judicially accepted that hearsay evidences are inadmissible to establish a judgment.
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