Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Arabic term or phrase:
بإقرار رئيس المجلس المشرف نفسه
English translation:
acknowledged / stated
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Sayed Fathy
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Arabic term
بإقرار رئيس المجلس المشرف نفسه
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Hello.
The following sentence is about how a government authority (المجلس المشرف) oversees the transfer of staff members between positions in the government bodies its administers.
في بعض الحالات، يظهر النقل بمثابة عقاب مقنّع أو مخفّف، بإقرار رئيس المجلس المشرف [على المناقلات] نفسه
Could the phrase mean "as acknowledged by the president of the Supervising Council himself"? (This would make sense as the president was interviewed in the document.)
Or is it "with the approval of the president..."?
Thanks!
The following sentence is about how a government authority (المجلس المشرف) oversees the transfer of staff members between positions in the government bodies its administers.
في بعض الحالات، يظهر النقل بمثابة عقاب مقنّع أو مخفّف، بإقرار رئيس المجلس المشرف [على المناقلات] نفسه
Could the phrase mean "as acknowledged by the president of the Supervising Council himself"? (This would make sense as the president was interviewed in the document.)
Or is it "with the approval of the president..."?
Thanks!
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Feb 24, 2017 11:57: Sayed Fathy Created KOG entry
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acknowledged / stated
your suggestion is the correct one, as acknowledged or stated by ....,
the "phrase" between the square brackets [على المناقلات] is simply NOT AN OBJECT; it describing, however, a duty or a power vested in the so called council.
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one more thing which is always confusing to many colleagues, when to use "Confess", "admit" and "acknowledge"?!
we use "confess" only when we report that we have committed a crime or something wrong against which we are charged or accused, on the other hand, we use "admit" to recognize something as true or actually took place or that you've made a mistake, which is not so so terrible; however, to "acknowledge", inter alia, implies a statement of confirmation or acceptance.
Thus; the use of "confession" here, in my view, is absolutely not acceptable.
Thanks
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My pleasure
the "phrase" between the square brackets [على المناقلات] is simply NOT AN OBJECT; it describing, however, a duty or a power vested in the so called council.
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one more thing which is always confusing to many colleagues, when to use "Confess", "admit" and "acknowledge"?!
we use "confess" only when we report that we have committed a crime or something wrong against which we are charged or accused, on the other hand, we use "admit" to recognize something as true or actually took place or that you've made a mistake, which is not so so terrible; however, to "acknowledge", inter alia, implies a statement of confirmation or acceptance.
Thus; the use of "confession" here, in my view, is absolutely not acceptable.
Thanks
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My pleasure
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Comment: "Thanks for your detailed answer :)
As for which translation is the best, I think we can only rely on the broader context to make an informed choice. Does the author think that the use of the transfers as punishment is a terrible misuse? If so, "confessed" might be acceptable, but I went for the more neutral "acknowledged" in the end.
BTW, I added "[على المناقلات]" myself to make the context clearer. The square brackets were supposed to indicate that it was my own addition."
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by the confession of the chairman supervising
by the confession of the chairman supervising the transfer himself
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through admission of
The word "admission" seems to be more suitable than "confession" which implies that the actor is professing "guilt".
As for "acknowledgment", it implies that a piece of information has been put forth for the sake of being confirmed, and that the party seeking confirmation is already in possession of the information in question.
However, "admission" clearly shows that the verification and origin of the information in question is from the "admitting" party and not any other party.
As for "acknowledgment", it implies that a piece of information has been put forth for the sake of being confirmed, and that the party seeking confirmation is already in possession of the information in question.
However, "admission" clearly shows that the verification and origin of the information in question is from the "admitting" party and not any other party.
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as acknowledged by the chairman of the council himself
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As acknowledged by the chairman of the supervising council himself
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