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11:25 Nov 28, 2019 |
German to English translations [PRO] Bus/Financial - Human Resources / ppa = per pro - or is there a semi-significant difference? | |||||||
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4 +1 | authorised representative |
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5 | pp or p.p. (per procuationem, per pro.) |
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4 | on behalf of |
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2 | is authorized |
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is authorized Explanation: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-contracts/1... |
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authorised representative Explanation: In my understanding, the terms vary with regard to the degree of authorisation. In brief: - ppa: the signatory has been granted power of procuration to legally represent the company overall - i.A.: the individual is signing on behalf of an absent person (but doesn't necessarily have the same level of authority) - i.V.: the signatory has the same degree of authority in this particular area |
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ppa. pp or p.p. (per procuationem, per pro.) Explanation: ppa. (com) = per procuram per procuration (com) = per Prokua, ppa. (Schäfer, Wirtschaftswörterbuch) by procuration per procura [Abk.: pp, ppa] https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/ppa. per procura in Vollmacht by proxy {adv} per Prokura per procurationem comm. per Prokura per pro / proc {prep} per Prokura https://www.dict.cc/?s=ppa. Prokura (italienisch procura, Vollmacht, von lateinisch procurare, für etwas Sorge tragen, zu lateinisch pro, für, und lateinisch cura, Sorge) ist in Deutschland, Österreich und in der Schweiz bei Unternehmen eine durch einen Kaufmann an Mitarbeiter erteilte umfangreiche geschäftliche Vertretungsmacht. Sie stellt, wie die Handlungsvollmacht, eine gewillkürte Form der Stellvertretung dar und hat den Zweck, dem Handelsverkehr eine sichere Grundlage für das Vertretungshandeln der kaufmännischen Gehilfen zu bieten. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokura Procuration (from Latin procurare, meaning 'to take care of') is the action of taking care of, hence management, stewardship, agency. The word is applied to the authority or power delegated to a procurator, or agent, as well as to the exercise of such authority expressed frequently by procuration (per procurationem), or shortly per pro., or simply p.p.[ : The correct usage is the subject of some debate. It has been understood as both "through the agency of" and "on behalf of".[2][3] The reason for this is that the meaning of the phrase per procurationem is ambiguous if used with undeclinable English names. Procuratio is related to the words "pro" (for/on behalf of/instead of) and "cura" (care/attention). It is thus close in meaning to "agency" — acting instead of someone. The phrase 'per procurationem' thus means "by/through agency". A common usage of per procurationem in the English-speaking world occurs in business letters, which are often signed on behalf of another person. For example, given a secretary authorized to sign a letter on behalf of the president of a company, the signature takes the form: . p.p. Secretary's Signature . President's Name or . President's Name . p.p. Secretary's Signature Commonly in practice, an alternative form is used: Secretary's Signature p.p. President's Name In German-speaking countries, ppa. (per procura autoritate) indicates that the person signing the document has special authority according to commercial law to sign documents in the name and on behalf of the company that a normal employee or representative of the company does not have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procuration -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 6 hrs (2019-11-28 18:02:52 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- I found three entries in the Kudoz Glossary. All identical: German term or phrase: ppa English translation: p.p. Entered by: John Speese https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-general/274... German term or phrase: gez. ppa. English translation: signed by procuration (per procurationem ...) Entered by: Johannes Gleim https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/finance-general... German term or phrase: i.A. vs ppa English translation: by proxy vs. pp Entered by: Wendy Streitparth https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-general/454... |
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on behalf of Explanation: It is important to consider who the target audience is. People working in academia would be familiar with the abbreviation pp but a hiring manager in the private sector may not be and may find it confusing, especially since "as agent for" is not the first thing that pops when entering pp into a search engine. In Sebastian's texts there are two supervisors signing an intern reference, making clear that they're not working in a university or other academic institution. The recipient of this reference will probably use it in an employment application and it should therefore be as easy to read and understand as possible IMO. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/on--behalf--of |
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