Björn Vrooman Sep 13, 2018:

If it were... ...an official document, then, yes. However, the only official one quoted is that at the UK link below.

Else, this can happen:
"In the original English text, paragraph 5.1.3 reads as follows:

Provision must be made to prevent excess evaporative emissions and fuel spillage caused by a missing fuel filler cap.
However, when translated into German, paragraph 5.1.3 referred to Benzin (petrol) instead of the more generic term Kraftstoff (fuel).

Überhöhte Verdunstungsemissionen und Überlaufen von Benzin aufgrund eines fehlenden Tankdeckels müssen vermieden werden."
https://www.jostrans.org/issue07/art_byrne.php

As the author says, relying on a translation like this could turn out to be very costly. Also what happens if an agency decides to replace the translation without changing the original? In that case, there's no reference to be found either.

Besides, the asker could have looked that up. A search will take less than 60 seconds. I thought the goal was to find a (near-)equivalent in English--not to copy and paste in the hopes of getting it right.

Always wondered why some people tell newly minted translators to try their hands at legal documents first.

Have a nice evening

Karolin Schmidt Sep 12, 2018:

Dear Björn,

I know. Still I would prefer to use the official source as quoted and not propose another solution - just for easier reference. Meaning that I prefer to find the bell - of whatever quality - on the handlebar and not, say, on the seat, so that I can decide whether to replace it by something more sophisticated or not.

Best

Björn Vrooman Sep 10, 2018:

Karolin DeepL is a Lingue offshoot. I don't put much faith in it.

The Swiss speak German, French and Italian. I should know; I have family there.

And, right there at the start of your document, in italics:
"English is not an official language of the Swiss Confederation. This translation is provided for information purposes only and has no legal force."

Saying that a company certifies (or even endorses) a specific part of a certificate implies that the same isn't true for other sections--which is utter nonsense, no offense.

It's like saying we'll draft an agreement so I can sell you this bike as is, but I won't authorize your use of the bell later. You're throwing logic out the window.

Best

Karolin Schmidt Sep 10, 2018:

@Björn,

Much appreciated. But the Swiss seem to be of a different opinion.

https://www.bdo.ch/getmedia/0e364ce8-461d-4f76-a821-8bef3011...

See page 3

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/19110009/...

See page 240.

(what is DeepL?)

Björn Vrooman Sep 9, 2018:

OK As this still doesn't seem to be clear enough:
"Bescheinigen" means "schriftlich bestätigen."
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/bescheinigen

In German:
https://www.bdo.ch/getmedia/0e364ce8-461d-4f76-a821-8bef3011...

Now, a share certificate:
"A share certificate is a written document signed on behalf of a corporation that serves as legal proof of ownership of the number of shares indicated."
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/share-certificate.asp

Cf.
https://www.yourcompanyformations.co.uk/blog/a-guide-to-shar...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/part/21#comment...

"Certify...on a certificate" is just obscene. There is no need for "authenticate" either. Since a share certificate is, as pointed out above, a written document signed on behalf of a corporation, it's not necessary to repeat "certify." You enter shareholder info in the register and include it on a certificate. See chapter "Minimum information to be included" at
https://bristolfoodproducers.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/9...

Options: shown, stated

Best wishes

Björn Vrooman Sep 7, 2018:

Thanks, Sophie "I would use an alternative verb to get away from the repetition..."

However, I think "Eintragung" means "Eintragung ins Aktienbuch" (i.e., registration number, etc. shown on the certificate; nothing fancy).

Here's another link that may help:
https://www.companylawclub.co.uk/share-certificates#model

Best

Dr Sophie Louisa Bennett Sep 7, 2018:

authenticate entry on share certificate I would use an alternative verb to get away from the repetition of certify and certificate. Der Grosse Eichborn suggests 'authenticate' in certain contexts. I suppose referring to the fact a physical share certificate had to be witnessed legally/officially and signed. 'Endorse' appears usually in context of endorsing a certificate once dividends had been paid to show that the shareholder had received what was due. I like explanations on these sites although they might not help directly with translation.

http://www.gmbh-gruenden-schweiz.ch/ueber-den-inhalt-von-akt...

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/share-certificate.asp