Sep 22, 2008 16:47
15 yrs ago
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Japanese term

タコ

Japanese to English Other Slang
I don't have a sentence for context I'm afraid. The only context I can give is that someone has done something fairly silly and this is some kind of insult. I guess that it can be translated into some sort of generic insult but I wanted to know if there was a particular nuance which I could use? Thanks very much in advance!
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Discussion

Gemma Collinge (asker) Sep 22, 2008:
Very sure. It's written down.
Will Matter Sep 22, 2008:
Are you sure they didn't say "baka", instead?

Proposed translations

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1 hr
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dumb, stupid, fool, etc

You are right "タコ” is translated into generic insult, but there is no such exact translation in this case. "タコ” sounds similar to dumb, stupid, fool, and etc when you cuss someone. "タコ” usually means octopus that looks funny in a sense.
Peer comment(s):

agree toshism : bonehead, idiot, often used in comedies
30 mins
agree Aogara : Bonehead or idiot sounds best suited. Ho-san, you should enter it as your answer. Dumb, stupid etc. are also fine.
48 mins
agree KathyT : How about 'dork'? I've definitely heard both タコ and タコベ used in this way - perhaps it's regional?
6 hrs
agree AniseK
9 hrs
agree Troy Fowler : Yep. This is right. As Okada-san pointed out, it can also mean "baldy" (for a bald head), but using it to mean simply "dumb-ass" or "idiot" is much more common. Oh-yeah, タコ can also mean "callus" or a bump of hard skin from using that area too much.
9 hrs
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1 hr

bald head

What English expression you use is up to you, but it seems this originally means a bald head. As you see in the link, I also hear this word spoken by Huuten no tora-san.

There are apparently other intrepretations. Have fun searching on the Internet probably with keywords like タコ 悪口

http://okwave.jp/qa2914471.html



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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-22 20:27:01 GMT)
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In that case, your "translation' can't be bald head! I guess it is used towards a kid just as a genreal-purpose insult regardless of the word origin. Tako was hardly used around me when I was a kid - I guess everyone had lots of hair!
Note from asker:
I've seen it in reference to baldness before too. But this time, it's referring to a kid with a full head of hair. Thanks for replying!
Peer comment(s):

agree humbird : Yes, usually used as "Tako-bouzu", means a buddist priest whose head is shaved. Thus bold-headed person. Nonetheless, this is hardly a word of reverence.
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4 hrs

airhead

I like this.
You can see good examples of use in the movie series 男はつらいよ 
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Reference comments

12 hrs
Reference:

Here's very interesting site. Well, I've heard neither of such derivation nor such use. But this person clearly pointed out its Edo Era origin.

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q131...
仰せのとおりあの海洋生物のタコらしいです。
以下参考URLより抜粋
江戸時代の徳川将軍家の家臣団には階級があり、
将軍に謁見できる家柄の直参旗本は「御目見栄」、それがかなわぬ下級の御家人を「御目見栄以下」または「以下」と呼んでいたそうです。
そこで家臣の子供どうしで喧嘩になると、上級武士の子供は下級武士の子供に「やーい、以下!以下!」と悪口を言いたてたそうです。
その差別的言辞の倫理的評価はともかく、下級武士の子供は「イカ!」と言われたんだから「タコ!」と言い返すほかはない。それが悪口「タコ」の語源であるらしいです。

Ika (squid) vs Tako (octopus), hah!?
It sure interesting to know such ancient expression popped out in this ciber space age of (quite possibly) manga origin!

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Note added at 12 hrs (2008-09-23 05:41:16 GMT)
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If this answer stands, I would say タコ is surely derogatory and insulting, but not necessarily one of those 馬鹿、間抜け、とんま、うすら、あかんたれ、アホ、どあほ、いかれぽんちfamily (all in the variety of idiot, supido, blockhead type) .
This makes all answers given so far wrong.



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Note added at 12 hrs (2008-09-23 05:43:56 GMT)
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On the other hand, everything is possible in this Manga world we are living.
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