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Grenzenloser Strom

English translation: Power without frontiers / Electricity without frontiers

14:12 May 8, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Science - Environment & Ecology / Climate change
German term or phrase: Grenzenloser Strom
Noch eine Zwischenueberschrift auf einem Poster; Teil einer Ausstellung ueber die umweltfreundlichen Praktiken der nordischen Laender. Der Text unter dieser Ueberschrift lautet: "Seit Mitte der neunziger Jahre haben sich die Strommärkte in den nordischen Ländern kräftig verändert. Sämtliche Märkte wurden liberalisiert, sowohl Stromhandel als auch -produktion
unterliegen seitdem dem freien Wettbewerb. Damit sollten Marktbedingungen verbessert und die Nutzung von Ressourcen sowie die Effizienz innerhalb der Netzwerke optimiert werden. Dieser Deregulierungssprozess wurde begleitet von der
Öffnung der Märkte über die nordischen Grenzen hinweg...." Der wichtigste Satz ist mE der letzte, da er dem "grenzenlos" eine zweite, wahrscheinlich wichtigere Bedeutung gibt als auf den ersten Blick. Mein erster Versuch ist "Boundless Power/Electricity". Vorschlaege? Danke fuer Eure Hilfe!
Bettina Grieser Johns
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:18
English translation:Power without frontiers / Electricity without frontiers
Explanation:
OK, I’ll hazard this as a full-blown answer. After all, you seemed to like the literal approach last time (Führerschein in Klimakunde = climate "driving licence"):
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/environment_ecol...

Despite the rather non-native sound to it (xyz without frontiers / xyz ohne Grenzen / xyz sans frontières), the phrase has taken on respectability since Peter Gabriel’s successful song Games Without Frontiers, as the following long list of titles confirms:

Games Without Frontiers Lyrics - Peter Gabriel
Artists Without Frontiers :: Home Page
Human Rights Without Frontiers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Immortal Chess Forum - Computer Chess without Frontiers!
Television Without Frontiers?
Aquaculture without Frontiers
Architects Without Frontiers | Australia
Learning Without Frontiers
Geeks Without Frontiers | Facebook
McMafia: Crime without Frontiers: Amazon.co.uk: Misha Glenny: Books
Genealogy without Frontiers
Advocates Without Frontiers - Case, Attorney, Lawyers Bankruptcy etc etc

For numerous other Google refs, see http://tinyurl.com/2w2uep7


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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:18
Grading comment
Thanks to everybody for their efforts!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5Power without frontiers / Electricity without frontiers
Lancashireman
4 +1Limitless electricity /limitless power
British Diana
4transnational power grid
casper (X)
3limitless power supply
HanulaPaul


Discussion entries: 10





  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Power without frontiers / Electricity without frontiers


Explanation:
OK, I’ll hazard this as a full-blown answer. After all, you seemed to like the literal approach last time (Führerschein in Klimakunde = climate "driving licence"):
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/environment_ecol...

Despite the rather non-native sound to it (xyz without frontiers / xyz ohne Grenzen / xyz sans frontières), the phrase has taken on respectability since Peter Gabriel’s successful song Games Without Frontiers, as the following long list of titles confirms:

Games Without Frontiers Lyrics - Peter Gabriel
Artists Without Frontiers :: Home Page
Human Rights Without Frontiers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Immortal Chess Forum - Computer Chess without Frontiers!
Television Without Frontiers?
Aquaculture without Frontiers
Architects Without Frontiers | Australia
Learning Without Frontiers
Geeks Without Frontiers | Facebook
McMafia: Crime without Frontiers: Amazon.co.uk: Misha Glenny: Books
Genealogy without Frontiers
Advocates Without Frontiers - Case, Attorney, Lawyers Bankruptcy etc etc

For numerous other Google refs, see http://tinyurl.com/2w2uep7




Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:18
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 83
Grading comment
Thanks to everybody for their efforts!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  British Diana: Translators without frontiers? Or perhaps limitless translators?
35 mins
  -> Or the 'borderless' variety? http://www.proz.com/forum/translators_associations/28033-tra... // I think that 'limitless power' sounds rather like the promises made in the 1950s for nuclear generation, so a bit out of place here.
agree  Trudy Peters: or without borders, as in "Doctors without Borders"
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Trudy. I was surprised by how well the "... without borders" version scored on everyone's favourite search engine. // Just read your note above. Have searched for Peter Gabriel 'Games without Borders' but couldn't find it (smiley icon) AJS
agree  Melanie Meyer: I also like Trudy's "Electricity without borders"
6 hrs
agree  Rolf Keiser: with Trudy
21 hrs
agree  clearyjd: "Electricity without borders" definitely feels the most natural to me
21 hrs
  -> Maybe a US v UK difference? My own feeling is that 'without frontiers' sounds the more established of the two, i.e. less Eurospeak.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
transnational power grid


Explanation:
The EU is studying plans for a transnational power grid in the North Sea that could provide electricity from renewable sources for 70m homes. It could cost up to €20bn (£16bn) to install.

The proposed 3,850 mile offshore grid would connect more than 100 wind farms, containing 10,000 turbines, to seven North Sea countries - Britain, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Norway.
http://tinyurl.com/5m265m

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-05-08 17:07:58 GMT)
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...über die nordischen Grenzen hinweg: across national borders in the North.

http://tinyurl.com/2ul3nmb

casper (X)
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for this, Jennifer. While I agree that this is a very elegant way of saying it and that you indeed need a grid for the power to be available in all these countries, I feel that it shifts the emphasis from power to grid, which is not what is wanted here IMO.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Trudy Peters: I think this is too specific for the asker's context
1 hr
  -> The text talks of "Strommärkte in den nordischen Ländern", "Netzwerke" (=power grids), "über die nordischen Grenzen hinweg" - which made me think of what I did.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Limitless electricity /limitless power


Explanation:
The only way I can think of rendering both meanings of "grenzenlos"

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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-05-09 07:39:40 GMT)
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Andrew has a point, I admit...

British Diana
Germany
Local time: 08:18
Meets criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Peter Manda (X): or unlimited / unbounded power
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Peter!
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
limitless power supply


Explanation:
...in the provided text sample would be probably..BORDERLESS POWER SUPPLY...my best offer,Jennifer is also very close ,actually i think she exploited the term exactly

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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2010-05-10 03:57:22 GMT)
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FOR JENNIFER
The former Soviet bloc countries established between 1949 and 1991 in
Moscow a body, called the COUNCIL OF MUTUAL ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE...which came up with a similar idea ...it was called ...POWER SUPPLY SYSTEM ...PEACE...





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Note added at 1 day14 hrs (2010-05-10 04:13:04 GMT)
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...which leads me to your suggestion... TRANSNATIONAL POWER GRID...
FAIR WINDS
PAUL

HanulaPaul
Canada
Local time: 02:18
Does not meet criteria
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