предложение/предложения

English translation: offer

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Russian term or phrase:предложение/предложения
English translation:offer
Entered by: Igor Savenkov

08:42 Dec 22, 2007
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Marketing / Market Research
Russian term or phrase: предложение/предложения
Условия организации тендера:

Компании будут приглашены для проведения презентаций своих предложений.

Еще:
Выбор победителя

Победителями будут являться, компании предоставившие наиболее точные и обоснованные предложения, а также лучшее соотношение цена/качество/сроки

offers? bids? Я все время путаюсь...
responder
Russian Federation
Local time: 09:59
offer
Explanation:
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Примеры:

"the procurer may decide either to award the contract to the bidder OFFERING: (i) the lowest price; or (ii) the most
economically advantageous bid."

"The reasons for challenging a tender vary on a case by case basis. However,the main reason is the infringement of fair competition and equal treatment by the procurer. It usually results from either the improper or imprecise descriptionof the subject of the contract or from the stipulation of an inappropriate setof conditions for participation in the tender. Other reasons usually include: (i) mistakes of the procurerat thetender
evaluation stage, such as the unjustified rejection of a bid or exclusion of a bidder; (ii) the choice of an uncompetitive OFFER; or (iii) an unjustified annulment of the tender."

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ПОДЧЕРКИВАЮ: я переводил солидные документы с АНГЛИЙСКОГО языка. Во всех них фигурировало offer. Правда, все эти документы касались Европейских тендеров. Возможно, в Америке принято то же самое называть proposal.
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Igor Savenkov
Russian Federation
Local time: 09:59
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2proposal(s)
Anna Makhorkina
5 +2offer
Igor Savenkov
5 +1bid and Winning Tender (or Winning Bidder)
Victoria Ibrahimova
5 -1bid/bids
Michael Kislov


Discussion entries: 4





  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
proposal(s)


Explanation:
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Anna Makhorkina
United States
Local time: 02:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in UkrainianUkrainian, Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Kondorsky
3 hrs
  -> Thank you, Alexander!

agree  Natasha Hunter: This is a good generic term that can mean bids, offers, etc.
8 hrs
  -> Thank you, Natasha!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
bid and Winning Tender (or Winning Bidder)


Explanation:
"and Winning Tender (or (Winning Bidder)" - Ответ на ваш второй вопрос.

Victoria Ibrahimova
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Kondorsky: agree in part of "selection of the winning bidder"
3 hrs
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
offer


Explanation:
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Note added at 7 мин (2007-12-22 08:49:28 GMT)
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Примеры:

"the procurer may decide either to award the contract to the bidder OFFERING: (i) the lowest price; or (ii) the most
economically advantageous bid."

"The reasons for challenging a tender vary on a case by case basis. However,the main reason is the infringement of fair competition and equal treatment by the procurer. It usually results from either the improper or imprecise descriptionof the subject of the contract or from the stipulation of an inappropriate setof conditions for participation in the tender. Other reasons usually include: (i) mistakes of the procurerat thetender
evaluation stage, such as the unjustified rejection of a bid or exclusion of a bidder; (ii) the choice of an uncompetitive OFFER; or (iii) an unjustified annulment of the tender."

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Note added at 6 hrs (2007-12-22 14:46:55 GMT)
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ПОДЧЕРКИВАЮ: я переводил солидные документы с АНГЛИЙСКОГО языка. Во всех них фигурировало offer. Правда, все эти документы касались Европейских тендеров. Возможно, в Америке принято то же самое называть proposal.

Igor Savenkov
Russian Federation
Local time: 09:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ilyanna: tender offer - Мне кажется, bid больше имеет отношение к цене.
4 mins
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agree  Igor Blinov: потому их и называют "офферентами"
4 hrs
  -> Спасибо

disagree  Alexander Kondorsky: http://wiki.ittoolbox.com/index.php/Buyer's_Guide:_Request_for_proposal/tender_process
5 hrs
  -> в моем понимании offer и proposal синонимы; вопрос лишь в том, как принято это называть в тендерах; я все время встречал offer; возможно, у Вас другой опыт. В СИСТЕМЕ КОНКУРСНЫХ ТОРГОВ ЛИЧНО Я ВСЕГДА ВСТРЕЧАЛ OFFER.

agree  Sergei Tumanov
21 hrs
  -> Спасибо!
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
bid/bids


Explanation:
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вообще bid и offer можно использовать interchangeably, но обратите внимание, что в биржевой торговле:
bid price цена покупателя ( самая высокая цена, по которой кто-л. из покупателей согласен купить предлагаемый финансовый инструмент или другой актив; термин обычно относится к биржевой торговле или к продажам товаров с аукциона, но может относиться и к любой другой торговой операции )

offer price запрашиваемая цена, цена продавца, цена предложения ( минимальная цена, по которой производитель или другой владелец товара, финансового инструмента и т. п. хотел бы его продать (напр. цена товара, предлагаемая биржевым брокером, либо начальная цена, объявленная на аукционе, либо цена, по которой осуществляется размещение нового выпуска акций среди инвесторов и т. п.); термин обычно встречается в биржевой торговле, но может относиться к любой торговой операции )

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proposal тоже можно (это синонимы)

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Synonyms for bid
Noun

3. bid, tender, offer, offering
usage: a formal proposal to buy at a specified price
http://www.infoplease.com/thesaurus/bid

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Bid
An offer by an intending purchaser to buy goods or services at a stated price, or an offer by an intended seller to sell his goods or services for a stated price. In the building construction trade, general contractors usually solicit bids based on building specifications from several subcontractors in order to complete the project. Governmental agencies are often required by law to construct highways and buildings, and to buy goods and services, only in accordance with a procedure wherein competitive bids are solicited by advertisement from the public, with the lowest competent bid winning the contract. See also responsibility [responsible bidders].
http://www.answers.com/bid?cat=biz-fin


"заявка на участие в конкурсе, участник - bidder, а само предложение (довольно большой документ, который и презентуют) - только proposal" - БЕЗГРАМОТНО

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Google:
"PROPOSAL" and tender - 3,810,000 hits
"bid" and tender - 6,550,000 hits

Michael Kislov
Russian Federation
Local time: 09:59
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Alexander Kondorsky: bid - заявка на участие в конкурсе, участник - bidder, а само предложение (довольно большой документ, который и презентуют) - только proposal
5 hrs
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