CAT tools file analysis - only against TM? Thread poster: Dr. Andrew Frankland
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Dear All,
I was simply wondering whether, when I analyse a file or group of files with a CAT tool, the program compares the TUs with the selected TM only or whether it also checks for matches within the file itself.
Thanks,
Andy
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Yes, Andrew, but you can always select an empty TM to avoid any misguidance.
| | | | Samuel Murray 
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| Only against TM | Mar 18, 2010 |
Dr. Andrew Frankland wrote:
I was simply wondering whether, when I analyse a file or group of files with a CAT tool, the program compares the TUs with the selected TM only or whether it also checks for matches within the file itself.
I know of no CAT tool that checks the text against itself when doing an analysis. The only self-checking it does is to check for repetitions. But no CAT tool (correct me if I'm wrong) checks the file's own strings for fuzzy matches among its own strings.
This is why if you do an analysis with an empty TM, there are no fuzzy matches indicated in the analysis (only repetitions and uniques).
It would be interesting to have such a function, though. Essentially the program would have compare every string against the entire rest of the file. It would help a translator get an idea of how long it might take to translate a file.
| | | | Jaroslaw Michalak
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MemoQ can do that. In fact, you can analyze files without any TM and still get fuzzies.
To quote the help file:
Homogeneity: Analysis against the segments within the selected scope is called homogeneity analysis. This is one of memoQ's power features. Check this check box to emulate building a translation memory during translation, and see the savings that will result from the internal similarities within the project. Using homogeneity, you are able to see the benefits ... See more MemoQ can do that. In fact, you can analyze files without any TM and still get fuzzies.
To quote the help file:
Homogeneity: Analysis against the segments within the selected scope is called homogeneity analysis. This is one of memoQ's power features. Check this check box to emulate building a translation memory during translation, and see the savings that will result from the internal similarities within the project. Using homogeneity, you are able to see the benefits of your future contribution – i.e. the contribution while you will be translating – to the translation memory. You are also able to give a much better estimation of your resources to be spent on translation than without homogeneity.
DejaVuX has "Internal repetition" count, but I am not sure if it checks against similar - not identical - segments. ▲ Collapse
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| Internal fuzzy matching? Yes, it's possible | Mar 18, 2010 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
I know of no CAT tool that checks the text against itself when doing an analysis. The only self-checking it does is to check for repetitions. But no CAT tool (correct me if I'm wrong) checks the file's own strings for fuzzy matches among its own strings.
It's possible. AFAIR there are four-five tools that can do this trick, from desktop tools to bigger TMS systems.
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Hello Wojciech,
what you are asking for can be called "internal leverage" (versus "external leverage" based on a TM)
MetaTexis for Word can do both leverage types. You can run both types at the same time, or only one of the two types, and, what's more, in the results there is a clear separation between the two leverage types.
You can download at trial version... See more Hello Wojciech,
what you are asking for can be called "internal leverage" (versus "external leverage" based on a TM)
MetaTexis for Word can do both leverage types. You can run both types at the same time, or only one of the two types, and, what's more, in the results there is a clear separation between the two leverage types.
You can download at trial version of MetaTexis at www.metatexis.com.
Best regards
Hermann ▲ Collapse
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The option is called "simulate propagation"
With this option enabled, on the same file, you're paid less working in SDLX than with Trados if you apply discounts.
That's why I prefer Trados. At least you may have the chance to leverage something to your own benefit. After all, you paid for the tool...
Philippe
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