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Premium-only forums: can they be moved/unchecked?
Thread poster: Barbara Carrara
Barbara Carrara
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Feb 26

Last 12 February I tried to post a new forum topic addressing the 'Member-only forums' ('Premium: AI community forum'; 'Premium: Website community forum'; 'Pastey - ProZ.com's AI Tool for Premium Members') that have been popping up in my forum feed for some time.

As of today, 26 February, so two weeks after my unsuccessful original attempt, my post is still greyed-out and marked as Posting not yet approved.

As a Standard member, I am not entitled to access any th
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Last 12 February I tried to post a new forum topic addressing the 'Member-only forums' ('Premium: AI community forum'; 'Premium: Website community forum'; 'Pastey - ProZ.com's AI Tool for Premium Members') that have been popping up in my forum feed for some time.

As of today, 26 February, so two weeks after my unsuccessful original attempt, my post is still greyed-out and marked as Posting not yet approved.

As a Standard member, I am not entitled to access any threads appearing in the above section, getting just a thread title - which is of no use to me whatsoever - and a warning when trying to do so,

Forum warning


In my original post, I asked the ProZ staff to move this and other Plus/Premium member-only threads elsewhere.
And as someone not interested in the Plus/Premium package or the Pastey tool, I'd like to be able to uncheck any Member-only threads from my Forum dashboard.
Pity that option is not available, the only boxes that can be checked on it being the 'List on homepage' and 'Track forum' ones,

Forum dashboard


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Lieven Malaise
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Seduction Feb 26

It's kind of obvious that they will not fulfil your request. I suppose it's comparable to news articles behind a paywall. For a lot of people it's just annoying, but some will let them seduce into finally taking a subscription.

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Not so much seduction ... Feb 26

... but more of a deterrent, at least for me.
Why should I want to pay for even more forums on subjects that are of no interest to me if we don't even get any answers or reactions to threads and suggestions supported by many of us?
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... but more of a deterrent, at least for me.
Why should I want to pay for even more forums on subjects that are of no interest to me if we don't even get any answers or reactions to threads and suggestions supported by many of us?
Just one of several examples:
https://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions/363811-please_remove_chatgpt_option_from_kudoz.html
Still waiting for action ...
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Lucia Leszinsky
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Forum categories and subcategories are more or less fixed Feb 26

Hello everyone,

The "AI community forum" and the "Website community forum" are forums listed under the "Member-only forums" sub-category in the "Forums about ProZ.com" category, not the forum feed, https://www.proz.com/forum . This means that they cannot be moved, hidden or un-tracked as you would do with a thread (forum categories and sub-categories are more or less fixed). And, yes, full threads
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Hello everyone,

The "AI community forum" and the "Website community forum" are forums listed under the "Member-only forums" sub-category in the "Forums about ProZ.com" category, not the forum feed, https://www.proz.com/forum . This means that they cannot be moved, hidden or un-tracked as you would do with a thread (forum categories and sub-categories are more or less fixed). And, yes, full threads are only available to Premium subscribers.

For the time being, those forums are visible so that anyone can see what is being discussed from thread titles. In the future, the member-only forums sub-category may display other member-only forums available to all paying members too.

Lucia
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Barbara Carrara
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Lucia Feb 26

Lucia Leszinsky wrote:
For the time being, those forums are visible so that anyone can see what is being discussed from thread titles.


Hi, Lucia

Can you please explain how can a thread title be even remotely useful to non-Premium subscribers, if we are not allowed to even read what's being discussed?

Lucia Leszinsky wrote:
In the future, the member-only forums sub-category may display other member-only forums available to all paying members too.


I would still be not interested in reading, discussing or subscribing. Hence my request to uncheck those forum threads from my feed.

Thank you.

Edited to remove unwanted 'that'

[Edited at 2024-02-26 14:01 GMT]


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Me too Feb 26

Barbara Carrara wrote:

I would still be not interested in reading, discussing or subscribing. Hence my request to uncheck those forum threads from my feed.

Thank you.


Me too. Get rid of them please.


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marketing Feb 26

Lieven Malaise wrote:

It's kind of obvious that they will not fulfil your request. I suppose it's comparable to news articles behind a paywall. For a lot of people it's just annoying, but some will let them seduce into finally taking a subscription.

I doubt that people subscribe just because of the thread titles. From a marketing point of view, it would be more advisable to have these threads open so that people can check if there is any added value for them.
Afaik, the tools are still in "beta" phase, so the threads may currently work for collecting feedback. (I just wonder why beta products are already being charged for).


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My guess Feb 26

My guess is they're not selling.

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Lucia Leszinsky
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Forum display and categories won't be changed Feb 26

[quote]Barbara Carrara wrote:

Can you please explain how can a thread title be even remotely useful to non-Premium subscribers, if we are not allowed to even read what's being discussed?

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What is being discussed can be read (I would say thread titles are descriptive enough), what cannot be read by non-Premium is the entire discussion. As for usefulness, I would rather speak about interest. There are plenty of clicks on those forum titles, more than one could expect from Premium members only. So I guess there is interest among other Standard and Plus members too, even non-members.

Barbara Carrara wrote:

I would still be not interested in reading, discussing or subscribing. Hence my request to uncheck those forum threads from my feed.


No problem. If you are not interested in posts in a given category, just keep an eye on the categories you are interested in and skip the ones you are not, just as you would do with the rest of categories in this forum and others.

If any changes are made to the way forums are displayed in the future, we will let everyone know. Thanks!

Lucia


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I am a member.... Feb 26

..... only not from the right category. So, what makes me that? An "Unter-member"?

I rest my case.


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Robert Feb 27

Robert Rietvelt wrote:

..... only not from the right category. So, what makes me that? An "Unter-member"?

I rest my case.



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