Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
par un juste retour des choses
English translation:
in a fitting reversal / payback
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Helen Shiner
Apr 4, 2012 16:37
12 yrs ago
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par un juste retour des choses
French to English
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mental block here. The idea to convey is that new 3D digitization of the Giza Archives Project is in some way a payback for all the years of looting in the name of archaeology:
Par un juste retour des choses, Giza 3D pourrait aussi bénéficier au Suprême Conseil des Antiquités Egyptiennes, notamment dans cadre de son projet de rénovation du plateau comportant un nouveau grand musée d’égyptologie. Un retour aux sources somme toute légitime, au service du partage d’un joyau du patrimoine mondial.
Par un juste retour des choses, Giza 3D pourrait aussi bénéficier au Suprême Conseil des Antiquités Egyptiennes, notamment dans cadre de son projet de rénovation du plateau comportant un nouveau grand musée d’égyptologie. Un retour aux sources somme toute légitime, au service du partage d’un joyau du patrimoine mondial.
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Apr 9, 2012 08:38: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/108604">Paul Hirsh's</a> old entry - "par un juste retour des choses"" to ""In a fitting payback""
Apr 9, 2012 08:39: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/882779">Helen Shiner's</a> old entry - "par un juste retour des choses"" to ""In a fitting reversal / payback""
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Helen Shiner
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In a fitting reversal
Another suggestion, though you have some good ideas here already.
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(Today, in a fitting reversal, these Nigerians and other peoples of the Global South are bringing the faith back to the West.)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bQYfS6OMW9IC&pg=PT34&lpg=...
Often, LA theater folk are wary of taking a locally premiered play to New York in fear of being sneered upon. In a fitting reversal, Jason Mitchell’s 2009 NY Fringe Festival hit, The Boy Upstairs, helmed by Jeremy O’Keefe, tiptoed into Celebration Theatre, Jan 24, as part of CT: Tuesdays Workshop series to find out if this Big Apple-centric comedy will connect with a West Hollywood audience.
http://www.lastagetimes.com/2012/01/la-stage-insider-50/
In a fitting reversal, Americans will be the ones to "freeze in the dark" as we either run out of money to pay for oil or are shut out from the oil supplies by war or sanctions. America, its democracy asphyxiated in Iran and cremated by martial law, will soon resemble today's Iraq, with roving gangs fighting while sane people flee.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/arendt/103
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Glad to help. We'll have to agree to disagree on reversal then!
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(Today, in a fitting reversal, these Nigerians and other peoples of the Global South are bringing the faith back to the West.)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bQYfS6OMW9IC&pg=PT34&lpg=...
Often, LA theater folk are wary of taking a locally premiered play to New York in fear of being sneered upon. In a fitting reversal, Jason Mitchell’s 2009 NY Fringe Festival hit, The Boy Upstairs, helmed by Jeremy O’Keefe, tiptoed into Celebration Theatre, Jan 24, as part of CT: Tuesdays Workshop series to find out if this Big Apple-centric comedy will connect with a West Hollywood audience.
http://www.lastagetimes.com/2012/01/la-stage-insider-50/
In a fitting reversal, Americans will be the ones to "freeze in the dark" as we either run out of money to pay for oil or are shut out from the oil supplies by war or sanctions. America, its democracy asphyxiated in Iran and cremated by martial law, will soon resemble today's Iraq, with roving gangs fighting while sane people flee.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/arendt/103
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Glad to help. We'll have to agree to disagree on reversal then!
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Tony M
: Nice one, Helen! More appropriate, I think, for the context and register.
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Thanks, Tony!
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katsy
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Thanks, katsy
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translatol
: Seems to fit the context.
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Thanks, translatol
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Alison Sparks (X)
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Thanks, Alison
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polyglot45
: I like "fitting" but I don't like "reversal" fitting turn of the wheel? change of fortunes ?
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Thanks for your comments - reversal of fortune? Though I quite like reversal on its own.
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cc in nyc
: fitting/deserved reversal [of fortune] – IMO keep "fitting" or "deserved" for "juste"
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Thanks, cc in nyc. I prefer 'fitting', and I don't really see the need for 'fortune', but I guess it is a matter of taste.
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Letredenoblesse
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Thanks, Agnes
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Comment: "I agree with polyglot45's comment. I used in a fitting payback "
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Laurette Tassin
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As would only be legitimate
an idea
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Tony M
: Though this idea might well work, I can't help thinking that the word order needs to be 'be only legitimate' — the placement of 'only' in EN syntax is crucial; it usually needs to go immediately next to what it refers to ('legitimate' rather than 'be')
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as was only fair / as was only right and proper
Harrap's suggestion!
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Dr Lofthouse
: prefer 'as is only right and proper'
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Thank you
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B D Finch
: Agree with Dr L: present tense.
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Bashiqa
: Some good suggestions here but you get my vote.
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Thank you
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Wendy Streitparth
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As an appropriate turn of events
possibly
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Could it be poetic justice that...
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Could it be poetic justice that...
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Could work, though I wonder if perhaps "In an appropriate..." mightn't work slightly better? / Brainstorming — though in my case, more like a light shower!
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Thanks Tony - always open to improvements!
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rokotas
: Though perhaps Tony is right
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Thanks, Rokotas
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polyglot45
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by a strange twist of fate
as luck would have it
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NEAT QUIRK OF FATE
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NEAT QUIRK OF FATE
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Lara Barnett
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Redressing the balance (quite) fairly...
What does "redress the balance" mean?
Readjust matters, restore equilibrium, as in If our party wins in a few big cities, it will redress the balance of urban and rural interests in the House. [Mid-1800s]
http://idioms.yourdictionary.com/redress-the-balance
Readjust matters, restore equilibrium, as in If our party wins in a few big cities, it will redress the balance of urban and rural interests in the House. [Mid-1800s]
http://idioms.yourdictionary.com/redress-the-balance
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