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Jorge Rodríguez Rodríguez
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Dutch pronuntiation Dec 15, 2021

@Robert Rietvelt

Er liggen negen brullende brillen te gorgelen in de Scheveningse grachten.


Haha. I like both how German and Dutch sounds. The German language is more elegant but the Dutch one sounds more barbarian, more germanic (It's something positive for me, I don't intent to offend you). When I hear Dutch, I look for an axe to go to battle. Haha.

And yes, I can pronounce that sentence without any problem. I don't know how to tr
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@Robert Rietvelt

Er liggen negen brullende brillen te gorgelen in de Scheveningse grachten.


Haha. I like both how German and Dutch sounds. The German language is more elegant but the Dutch one sounds more barbarian, more germanic (It's something positive for me, I don't intent to offend you). When I hear Dutch, I look for an axe to go to battle. Haha.

And yes, I can pronounce that sentence without any problem. I don't know how to transcribe the sounds into English, but it's as if I pronunce Spanish but all the "g" and "ch" sound like a very hard English "h". That sound exists in Spanish, although it's not pronounced as hard in my dialect as in the center of Spain but I can pronounce it that way thanks to the Spanish TV. The "sch" is not pronounced as in German (like the English "sh") but like the a "s" followed by a hard "h".

Best regards,
Jorge
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Nothing wrong with Dutch ..... Dec 15, 2021

Baran Keki wrote:

Robert Rietvelt wrote:
Most foreigners I know close their ears when they hear my native language.

It's a profitable language! I wish I knew it


.... only there are better sounding languages.

https://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding-languages/


 
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Each to their own.. Dec 15, 2021

Robert Rietvelt wrote:
.... only there are better sounding languages.

https://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding-languages/

If I could go back 20-25 years (providing I'd decided to be a translator) I'd have learned Scandinavian languages and wouldn't have given a sh*t about how they sounded...


Adieu
 
Never too late Dec 15, 2021

Baran Keki wrote:
If I could go back 20-25 years (providing I'd decided to be a translator) I'd have learned Scandinavian languages and wouldn't have given a sh*t about how they sounded...

Any competent linguist with a prior knowledge of English or German should be able to master the Scandinavian languages in six months.

As for they how they sound...

Norwegian sounds like someone having the most amazing trip.

Danish sounds like someone gagging on something unexpectedly jammed down their throat.

Swedish just sounds normal to me. Kind of Norwegian lite.

Finnish (yes, not Scandi as such) sounds like someone who's landed from the planet Zog.

No offence intended


 
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@Baran Dec 15, 2021

Baran Keki wrote:

Robert Rietvelt wrote:
.... only there are better sounding languages.

https://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding-languages/

If I could go back 20-25 years (providing I'd decided to be a translator) I'd have learned Scandinavian languages and wouldn't have given a sh*t about how they sounded...


You are never too old to learn.


expressisverbis
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Baran Keki
 
Robert Rietvelt
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@ Jorge Dec 15, 2021

Jorge Rodríguez Rodríguez wrote:

The "sch" is not pronounced as in German (like the English "sh") but like the a "s" followed by a hard "h".

Best regards,
Jorge


I don't want to take over the topic, but a small correction.

"Sch" in Dutch is pronounced something like "SJG", so with a hard Dutch "G", or "J" (SJ, more or less) in Spanish on the end. Absolutely impossible for Germans.

About the (nonsense) example sentence, the only ones I met who could pronounce it perfectly, were people from Israel and Arabs.

End!


expressisverbis
 
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US agencies' rates Dec 16, 2021

How about these tongue-twisters from Japan?

"Tonari-no kyaku yoku kaki kuu kyaku da". ("The guest beside me is a guest who often eats persimmons")

Or
"Tokyo tokkyo kyokakyoku" ("The Tokyo patent authorization agency")


 
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In praise of Dutch English Dec 17, 2021

Robert Rietvelt wrote:

Baran Keki wrote:

Robert Rietvelt wrote:
.... only there are better sounding languages.

https://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding-languages/

If I could go back 20-25 years (providing I'd decided to be a translator) I'd have learned Scandinavian languages and wouldn't have given a sh*t about how they sounded...


You are never too old to learn.


Straying even further off topic:

I personally like the way the Dutch speak English. The accent is easy on the ears, and most of the Dutch people whom I have met (mainly in countries outside the US) have a solid command of English. Thus, the speech is generally fluent, as well as melodic.


 
Adieu
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Summary Dec 17, 2021

The Europeans pay more and have far fewer Spanish speakers.

 
expressisverbis
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I think I know that sound... Dec 17, 2021

Robert Rietvelt wrote:

About the (nonsense) example sentence, the only ones I met who could pronounce it perfectly, were people from Israel and Arabs.

End!


I think I know that Dutch sound if Hebrew and Arabic native speakers can pronounce it well.
There are people who have a natural talent to learn foreign sounds.
I take my hat off to them

(I'm sorry for contributing to hijacking the topic!)


 
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