Quality of machine translation from German into Italian 스레드 게시자: Maria Teresa Pozzi
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Dear all,
I wanted to have your opinion on the quality of machine translation for the language pair German>Italian.
| | | | | Quality of machine translation?? | Dec 27, 2012 |
Imo that in itself is a contradiction in terms
| | | | | Probably better than for German as target | Dec 27, 2012 |
The German verb is a major obstacle for MT. In many cases it comes up with two or three verbs at the end of the sentence. So probably Italian is easier. but I have no real knowledge.
I'm sometimes surprised how well MT translates, and it is certainly more helpful than a dictionary alone.
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I noticed that you have recently attended a course on Machine Translation, what were your impressions? Why are you posing the question? For my part, I will not touch machine translation for several reasons and, alike Writeaway, I think that putting the words quality and machine translation in one sentence would shiver the bones of many a linguist...
[Edited at 2012-12-27 14:38 GMT]
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| Use your experience | Dec 27, 2012 |
In my primary language pair (English to Dutch), machine translation can be useful for certain types of text. I sometimes get quite good suggestions out of it, but the grammar is almost always wrong. In other words, machine translation, to me, is a tool that I can use in certain circumstances.
It however also holds certain risks. Not concerning the correctness of my end result (because I only use it as inspiration, not as a replacement), but rather concerning the creative process of... See more In my primary language pair (English to Dutch), machine translation can be useful for certain types of text. I sometimes get quite good suggestions out of it, but the grammar is almost always wrong. In other words, machine translation, to me, is a tool that I can use in certain circumstances.
It however also holds certain risks. Not concerning the correctness of my end result (because I only use it as inspiration, not as a replacement), but rather concerning the creative process of translating. Seeing a machine-generated suggestion sometimes fences in your own inspiration. In that case, you may end up with a translation that is correct but not as good as it could have been without using machine translation as an "extended dictionary".
If you are asking whether or not machine translation is good enough to replace human translation, I would say no - at least not in my language pair. And at least not for the easily available machine translations such as Google or Microsoft.
But you can easily try it out yourself by submitting a text to one of those and by checking if the result is at all useful to you. For some materials, it might. For others, it won't. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | You must be joking! | Dec 27, 2012 |
It takes quite a lot of experience and knowledge of the German mindset and culture to make good translation from German into Roman languages. As others have pointed out, "quality in machine translation" is the new oxymoron.
| | | | | Just curiosity | Dec 27, 2012 |
The course was quite general. In fact the "quality" of MT greatly depends in the laguages. With German it doesn't work because of the structure, but in some other cases the result was not a complete disaster.
It was just curiosity, I don't think MT can replace human translation.
| | | | | For what I have seen | Dec 27, 2012 |
it does not work for my primary language pair (English-European Portuguese) either...
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| Analysis of Post-editing of automated operation | Feb 14, 2013 |
teapozzi wrote:
Dear all,
I wanted to have your opinion on the quality of machine translation for the language pair German>Italian.
Compare with:
Analysis of Post-editing of Speach Recognition from Czech speech-to-text
Main issue is segmentation and a case on beginnig of sentence
http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/07.html
Machine translation can be combined with more MT at one moment at one segment. Look at segment with suggestions from Amagama (TM) and Microsoft (MT). From translation memory and from machine translation.
Some segments are translated quite good, the translations of CZ to 10 languages by Google Translate, you can see a pair CS-DE on one screenshot
http://www.condak.net/titulky/tedx/cs/08.html
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To the topic, MT in CAT. MemSource is a CAT for agency.
You can see " Proposed MT post analysis discounts" in an article on MemSource:
http://signsandsymptomsoftranslation.com/2012/12/11/post-analysis/
Milan
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